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Good grief Michelle - how do you do it - they all wrote Bincombe - I have hunted around Bincombe for days - just to get rid of the dreaded (mother) record - it turns out to be Winterbourne St Martin - Martinstown - as I read down the records - and saw Martinstown births - I expected Frederick Turner to pop up


What more can I say but thank you so very much - you have done Bessie Jane proud

Irene Palmer xxx

Irene

I am not 100% on Ann, i did wonder because she was not with the family on the 1841...so wondered if his first wife had died? But the 1861 was interesting with the Bowring surname.
There are a couple of deaths before 1840 for possible first wives if this is the case. Think 1 was Ann and the other was Jane.

Remember to always verify information with certs. Hope this has helped with that brick wall :)

Ah just seen your message...glad you are happy :)

Michelle

Michelle - I use FMP apart from the mistranscription - which I would never have got - why could I not find on census search - why did they not come up


Many many thanks

Irene

Irene

I don't know? I use Ancestry the mistranscript i found through my methods i use for hard to find people.The 1871 came up fine on Ancestry and the rest of the information i found through that record.
Each site does vary, 1 record you can find on 1 you might not find on the other.
Main thing is you have the information and make sure to get certs to verify it.

Michelle

Michell

Will do - thank you again - you have solved all but one of my tree - I am very very pleased - i am nearly at the very end of quest - it has taken about 3 years - really really enjoyed it - as you know I was beside my self with joy when you found Ada Jane for me - and I mean overjoyed - if ever I can do any thing for you just ask

My kindest regards

Irene

Irene

Ah thanks so pleased for you :) I love helping people and love working on brick walls. Wish i had more time to give, but I work and have 2 kids so not always easy to be on here.

Happy searching and you know where i am if you need anymore help :)

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Thank you for looking. I really appreciate your continued assistance. I'm hoping you can smash this brick wall of mine!!!

Looking forward to seeing what you can find on my Walker family!
Liz

Liz

Not much luck with that 1841...the 1841 is a difficult census as being the first there were many errors in it. In later census if people were not in when visited they were followed up, this did not alway happen on the 1841. There are many strays on this census, people who were not recorded. I found a possible for Mary Ann...maybe working in this house? She is listed as not born in the area she was in at the time. Which is true as she was born in Kent.

1841 England Census
about Mary Ann Walker
Name: Mary Ann Walker
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St James
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: St James Square
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizth Carter 50
William Tuell 55
Charlotte Tuell 50
William Williams 50
Margaret Moreley 30
Sophia Arthur 30
Caroline Barton 20
Elizth Towle 25
Eliza Compton 25
Maryann Johnson 20
Caroline Telbot 15
Ann Ellins 20
Mary Ann Walker 15
Henry Lewis 25
Mary Coles 25
Elizth Gardner 20
Emma Plaus 15


Elizabeth the head was a Dressmaker


Will see if i can find anything else...but i have spent quite some time looking.

Hi Michelle,

Thank you ever so much for looking for these elusive ancestors of mine. I really appreciate all the time that you have spent looking. You are a star.
The one of Mary Ann does look promising I will look further into that. In 1846 when Mary Ann gets married John Walker has his occupation as gentleman so less likely that she would be working.

Thanks again
Liz

Liz

Yes it is less likely. Although saying that i had an ancestor listed as a Gentleman and his daughter did work. I think this maybe a case of strays from the 1841 sadly. There is no sign of them. I am unsure with regards missing census parts on the 1841, this maybe an option? Most census years have missing parts.
Good luck with your tree.

Michelle

Hi Michelle

After sent a pm I found your thread - typical -

So am nudging up

Irene in Spain

Hi Michelle
Please would you look up Dorothy Breese who was born Lambeth or Wandsworth 1906, parents Frederick Breese and Nellie Smith. She married in 1940s Richard (Dick) Smith and they lived on a farm in Wantage, Berkshire, they had a son called John about 1945. Then in 1960s she moved back to Colliers Wood, and died in 1960s.
Thanks Sandra

Sandra

Are you certain on the information you gave me? Especially on the parents of Dorothy, her mother's name? Also are you certain she married a Richard Smith?

Thanks

Michelle

Hi Michelle
I only know that Dorothy Breese was born 1906 (on Freebmd) and her mother Nellie Smith (born 1870 Reading) married George Long in Lewisham in 1893. George Long died in 1905, then Nellie Smith married Frederick Breese in Lambeth 1906, also their daughter Nellie Breese was born 1908 Wandsworth. Nellie Smith died 1944 in Wandsworth, age 75.
I think that Dorothy Breese lived in Wantage at least until Frederick Breese died in 1955 in Wantage, he was born West Beckham, Norfolk.

Nellie Smith was in 1901 census married to George Long with children Gladys, my Grandma and also Alfred. George, Edith and Eiza, who I don,t have much info on. I think that Alfred and George may have died in the war, there don't seem to be any children.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Regards Sandra

HI Michelle,

Wondered if it would be possible for you to do couple of census look ups for me,

The first is for Samuel Stone i dont have his exact year of birth i believe it was approx 1826 and his wifes name was Hannah born c1822 both at weston-on-trent, they married in 1848, i would be grateful for any census's that you can find them on.

and the second is for Henry Stone b. 1849 weston on trent and his wife was elizabeth martin b 1851 married 1869 again any census's that you can find them on would be a great help and much appreciated.

Hope this isnt asking too much and thanks again.

regards Emily

Emily

Henry Stone is with his mother Hannah on the 1851


1851 England Census
about Robert Stone Name: Robert Stone
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipley, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Hannah Stone Name: Hannah Stone
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert Stone
Gender: Female
Where born: Thulston, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about William Stone Name: William Stone
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Stone
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Mary Stone Name: Mary Stone
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Stone
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Female
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Joseph Stone Name: Joseph Stone
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Stone
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

Continued..

Emily

1851 continued...

1851 England Census
about Hannah Stone Name: Hannah Stone
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Stone
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Female
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Hannah Stone Name: Hannah Stone
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Daughter-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigston, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Ann Stone Name: Ann Stone
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Female
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Thomas T Stone Name: Thomas T Stone
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

1851 England Census
about Henry Stone Name: Henry Stone
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Hannah Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston On Trent, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Weston On Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stone 45
Hannah Stone 41
William Stone 10
Mary Stone 7
Joseph Stone 5
Hannah Stone 1
Hannah Stone 29
Ann Stone 2
Thomas T Stone 1
Henry Stone 1

Robert a Farm Labourer
William a Plough Boy
Hannah is listed as a Widow??Pauper's labourers wife

Address Weston on Trent.

Will look and see whether this is correct re Hannah being a widow?

Hi Michelle

Did you ever manage to find a minute to look at my thread for Frederick John Bailey


Thanks very much


Irene in Spain

Emily

Well if the family i found is your Hannah and Henry looks like dad died

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Samuel Stone Name: Samuel Stone
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Shardlow
County: Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 19
Page: 419 (click to see others on page)

Emily

1871

1871 England Census
about Henry Stone Name: Henry Stone
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Stone
Gender: Male
Where born: Smalley, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Smalley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Horsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Stone 21
Elizabeth Stone 23
Mary Ann Stone 3
William Stone 1
Joseph Pickering 47
Emma Pickering 34
Harriett Pickering 13
Sarah Pickering 11
Hannah Pickering 6

Henry Coal Miner
Joseph a Farm Labourer

Address Hunting Houses

Will look for more later offline now.

Michelle