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Usa Census 1891 / 1901 lookup needed.

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Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Nov 2008 20:44

Thank you, Alviegal. She probably would have remarried after her husband died, but you never know. I will look again on U.S. census records to see if I can find them. Thank you again.

After a quick look, I don't see either Thomasina or Eleonor in America.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Nov 2008 20:11

This is that record Lisa. All it says is she was 59 and a citizen of USA. She travelled with a 28 year old daughter, Eleanor.

Name: Mrs T B Browell
Birth Date: abt 1855
Age: 59
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 17 Jun 1914
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Kaiserin Auguste Victoria
Search Ship Database: View the 'Kaiserin Auguste Victoria' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Hamburg-America Line
Official Number: No official number listed




Name: Miss Eleonor Browell
Birth Date: abt 1886
Age: 28
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 17 Jun 1914
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Kaiserin Auguste Victoria
Search Ship Database: View the 'Kaiserin Auguste Victoria' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Hamburg-America Line
Official Number: No official number listed

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Nov 2008 19:08

Hi Linda:

This is the address I found:
Evergreen Cemetery
1005 S. Hancock Avenue, Colorado Springs, Colorado 80903
Office Hours 8 a.m-5 p.m. Monday through Friday
Saturday 8 a.m. - Noon
phone (719) 578-6646
fax (719) 578-6077

When I wrote to offices in Canada, I explained that I was living in California and was working on my family tree. They were all very helpful (I think especially since they knew I couldn't just drop by the cemetery). A few years ago I wrote asking for my gr-gr-grandfather's information (and who might be buried in his plot) and mentioned his first wife's name and that she died before him. The wonderful staff member not only gave me all of the information about my gr-gr-grandfather's plot, she also found his first wife's burial information!

I'm not sure how to obtain his certificate; I will look around and be back here shortly (I'm Canadian and have only ordered one certificate from the states).
PS It's best to order certificates from the state offices, not private companies, as it is less expensive.

By the way, do you know his occupation, please?
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After a quick glance, it appears that this is a government site (and one that you want):
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/certs/birth.html
I believe the "VitalCheck" site mentioned on the above site is one of those sites that charges more than you need to pay.
Because he died prior to 1900, it looks like you have to order the certificate through the county where the death occurred; believe the county is El Paso.
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Have you tried asking for a lookup to see if Thomasina went back to the UK? It looks like the date ranges offered are 1878-1960. There is a Mrs. T.B. Browell arriving in Southampton, England, but I cannot view further details. Do you know if Thomasina was known by any other name? Do you know when she was born, please?

Linda

Linda Report 1 Nov 2008 18:31

Hello lisa.

I am going to send a letter to the Crematorium to see if they have any other information on James..

I need to also know how do I go about sending for his Death certificate too.. ie. address of registry office.

Linda x

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Nov 2008 06:41

I didn't see anything about the Browells in these newspapers:
http://www.coloradohistory.org/chs_Library/research_coll_files/rc_newspapers.htm

Linda

Linda Report 31 Oct 2008 16:00

Hi Lisa.

Thanks for the above help.
I am now stepping into a new territory as I am in England.
So far I have been unable to find any marriage of Thomasin(a) or on the 1901 Census.
but, never mind, she may turn up one day!

Thanks again.
Linda x

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 31 Oct 2008 15:29

Hi Linda:

Like others, I couldn't find any additional information about immigration. I tried looking for Thomasin(a) in 1900 (with a different surname, but didn't see anything. Is there a chance that she could have returned to England? (I am on my way to work, so I won't see your answer until tonight.)

PS You could try writing to the cemetery office and see if they will give you additional information. The cemetery staffs in Canada have been very helpful to me; perhaps they may be to you as well, especially since you have most of the information you would need to check the records.

Linda

Linda Report 31 Oct 2008 12:46

Thank you Rose & Lisa for that information.

I only had James on Census with his parents & siblings. I found his death by accident in the local paper in England.

Yes, he was born in 1858.

Many thanks.
Linda x

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 31 Oct 2008 05:54

You probably already know this, but it looks like James is buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Colorado Springs, Colorado.
http://files.usgwarchives.org/co/elpaso/cemeteries/colosprings/evergreen/evgnbro.txt
LAST NAME FIRST NAME BIRTH DATE DEATH DATE BURIAL DATE LOT# COMMENTS
Browell James --- --- 1893 L

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 31 Oct 2008 00:25

I see your James was born 1858.

There's this:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about James Browell
Name: James Browell
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1888
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: New York
Place of Origin: England
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: City of New York
Search Ship Database: View the City of New York in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 22
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_527
List Number: 1544
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

Rose

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Oct 2008 23:27

I can't find a James Browell on Castle Garden or Ellis Island, but most records from 1892 on were destroyed by an 1897 fire at Ellis Island.
http://www.castlegarden.org/
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp
nor can I find an incoming record for Thomasin's return to the UK.

I can't find a suitable Thom* Browell, nor an Ina/Ena Browell in US 1900, nor any suitable Browell in CO 1900.

Linda

Linda Report 30 Oct 2008 22:36

ok. Thanks Sue.

Linda x

Susan

Susan Report 30 Oct 2008 22:34

Most of the 1890 US census was destroyed in a fire.

Linda

Linda Report 30 Oct 2008 22:31

Hi.

My Gt uncle & his wife went off to America between 1882 - 1893. I need help in finding them to see if they had any family.

Their names were James Martin BROWELL & Thomasin(a) nee Todd.
They were married in Newcastle upon Tyne 1882.

James died in The Union Home. Colorado Springs. USA. on 30 November 1893.

Thank you.
Linda x