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Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:32

1891 census

Name: Jane Smailes
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Bedlington, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Harton
Ecclesiastical parish: St. Simon
Town: Harton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: South Shields
Sub registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 52b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jno Geo Harbottle 7
Eleaner Smailes 10/12
James Smailes 50 b. Milford, Northumberland
Jane Smailes 40

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Oct 2008 17:32

1901 census
27 Brinkburn St., S. Shields, Durham
Jane Swailes, head, widow, 50, waits on son, domestic, born Northumberland, Bedlington
John G., son, 17, engine cleaner, born Durham, Boldon
*Eleanor, dau, 10, born S. Shields
Ralph Harbottle, father, 76, retired hind (dependant on sons), born Northumberland, Warkworth
Eleanor Harbottle, mother, 77, born Newburn

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:33

That side in my family tree matches. Can you now find out about Eleanor's dads family because that is the confusing part. (James Smailes)

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:34

James in 1851..........possibly

Name: James Smailes
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Meldon, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: High and Low Highlaws
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub registration district: Morpeth
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Smailes 11
Jane Smailes 48 b. Earsdon, North'd
John Smailes 7
Robert Smailes 13
Thomas Smailes 43 b. Warenford, North'd
Thomas Smailes 17

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Oct 2008 17:35

James Smailes married Jane Harbottle Dec. Q 1883, Chester le Street. (10a 725)

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 29 Oct 2008 17:36

I am butting out of this now as I think there are people on here with more experience than me and I don't want to "cloud the issue!"

Good luck

Regards Paula

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:39

All the information you have gave me matches but i also have a brother William. I just want to know who they married and whether they had children if that is possible. Thank you

David

David Report 29 Oct 2008 17:44

1841

Name: Thomas Smiles
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Morpeth
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub registration district: Bedlington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Thomas Smiles 30
Jane Smiles 35
William Smiles 10
Thomas Smiles 5
Robert Smiles 4
James Smiles 1

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:44

I have a feeling that the William i have on my tree should not be there otherwise his mum would have been 10 like i found out. Does anyone agree?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Oct 2008 17:47

Evidently Jane had a son before she married James:
1891 census
Jordison's Buildings, Green Lane, Harton, Durham
James Smailes, head, 50, general labourer, born Mitford
Jane, wife, 40, born Bedlington
Jno. Geo. Harbottle, son, 17, born Durham, Boldon
Eleanor Smaile, dau, 10 months, born Durham, Haitor?

And next door:
Ralph Harbottle, head, 66, general labourer, born Northumberland
Eleanor, wife, 67, born Newburn
Jane A., grandau, 17, born Durham, Claydon?

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:51

Jane Harbottle had John George Harbottle the same month she married James.! bit of a scandel. The information someone has just gave me on here says that Jane and Thomas had 5 years apart that means that she would have been 15 when she had William. Can anyone find out if Jane Aynsley was born in 1816

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:54

I mean 1806 sorry my maths is terrible

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:54

The William who is the brother of James was born in Northumberland............so he is not likely to be the one who says he was born in Tanfield

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:56

Have you tried looking on the IGI for Jane's baptism?

www.familysearch.org

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 17:56

I dont know i am so confused i have his profession as a coal miner if that helps

David

David Report 29 Oct 2008 17:57

Lania

If the family on the 1841 census is correct then Jane was 5 years older than Thomas (approx 1803 & 1808).

Since they married in 1832 (a year after William was born) William would have been Janes son and possibly not Thomas's.

He would therefore be your ancestors step-brother. He may even have been christened Aynsley.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Oct 2008 17:58

Was James previously married?
1881 census
West Harton, Durham
James Smailes, head, 40, colliery cartman, born Northumberland, Meldon Park
Hannah, wife, 41, born Durham, Saltoell?
Thomas, son, 17, apprentice to saddler, born Northumberland, Marton House

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 29 Oct 2008 17:59

This is a possibility for William in 1861

Name: Wm Smailes
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Cath
Gender: Male
Where born: Wodr, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Widdington
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub registration district: Bedlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
Cath Smailes 45
Jno Smailes 4
Jno Smailes 17 Brother
Thos Smailes 6
Wm Smailes 30
Wm Straffin 20 Wife's son
Isaac Trumble 21
Thos Walby 67 Wife's uncle

Lania

Lania Report 29 Oct 2008 18:00

I have James marrying a Hannah Rutherford and she died June 1881 then he married Jane Harbottle.

David

David Report 29 Oct 2008 18:02

Longshot:

JANE AYNESLEY

Event(s):
Birth:
17 OCT 1802
Christening:
07 NOV 1802 Hebron, Northumberland, England


Parents:
Father: WILLIAM AYNESLEY
Mother: ELEANOR COOPER

Think Eric is right with the 1861 census