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As you say not all had lots. Vera may well have been the only child. It is strange as he had a family business- but there you go.

It just sometimes happens.

Even though my grandfather was from a family of 8 & his mother from a family of 11, he had only one child, my father.

They did have one other son who lasted a day. So sad. My grandmother always felt the loss.

Ozi.

I find it unusual that Frank Woolhouse should only have ONE child i.e Vera. In those days they had big families and he had his ironmongers business. Who would he leave it to and what became of it? I find more questions come up each day.

nice thanks. Printed off and added to my tree info. Thanks !!

Do you know if Frank only had ONE child i.e my grandmother Vera Woolhouse. I ask as its seems odd to just have one child in those days. I put her dob etc further up on these pages.

Brenda you could be spot on!! :-) I'll post those details to my uncle who is in his 70s his mother was Vera Tripp (nee) Woolhouse. Of course she is dead as is Frank Percy Woolhouse who was the iron monger. I seem to remember they were in Finchley but that may have been their family home rather than the business!!

Was Fred the brother of Frank?? I cant see the screen without losing this message as I type. I think so.

My god ozi bird you are really good at this !!!! :-)

Yes Frank was my grandmothers father. Frank Percy Woolhouse married Alice Getrude (nee Harris) 20th Sept 1909 Kensington, I have the certs. Tomorrow I plan to make a BIG tree on GRU but I think you will have to send me a message on it to access it and see it?? Alice Harris was born 9th of June 1882 Pimlico.

Do you think you or your rellies are linked to me via Woolhose or any other name or names?? all the dates you put for frank and his siblings is spot on. I'd love to know about Franks life and possible army service etc, Frank is an enigma and of course his daughter (my grandmother) Vera Tripp nee Woolhouse 26th Dec 1910 Paddington died about 15 years ago. My family told me Frank was an iron monger!! I think in Finchley London?? Do you have any more details??? on Frank short of a crystal ball or medium contact !! :-)

I'll print off what you told me and sift through it bit by bit. THANKS Ozibird !!! Did any of them go overseas to Austrialia !!! do yo think?

P.S I have certs for Frank and his wife and my grandmother his daughter Vera Woolhouse (later to be a Tripp) As far as I know Frank Percy Woolhouse only had ONE daughter named Vera b 26th Dec 1910 (my grandmother) do you think this is acurate??? it seems funny for the times and that he had a business to only have ONE child i.e my grandmother Vera!! what do you think??

This looks like JOSEPH snr. Henry's grandfather, Frank's great-grandfather.

IGI Individual
JOSEPH WOOLHOUSE
Christening: 05 DEC 1777 Bassingham, Lincoln, England
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH WOOLHOUSE
Mother: CATH.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C025981 Dates: 1562 - 1836


This looks like the family.
Results for: British Isles
Father: Joseph Woolhouse, Mother: Catherine
Batch Number: C025981

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 5
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. CATHARINE WOOLHOUSE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 FEB 1786 Bassingham, Lincoln, England

2. HENRY WOOLHOUSE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 MAR 1783 Bassingham, Lincoln, England

3. ANN WOOLHOUSE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 APR 1773 Bassingham, Lincoln, England

4. JOSEPH WOOLHOUSE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 DEC 1777 Bassingham, Lincoln, England

5. JNO. WOOLHOUSE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 APR 1774 Bassingham, Lincoln, England
You can have fun searching the rest yourself.

Happy hunting, Ozi.

Now to go further back.

HENRY snr was born c1808 in Ingham, Lincolnshire, christened 31 July at Ingham. His parents were JOSEPH Woolhouse & SARAH ?

According to the IGI he had at least 6 siblings. JOSEPH, JOHN, MARY, EDWARD, FREDERIC & EDMUND.

In 1841 JOSEPH & SARAH are living in Ingham. Their daughter, MARY Elston, is visiting with her daughters Betsey & Caroline. Remember I said they'd be more about her later? There is no record of Joseph's occupation but he's well off enough to be "índependent."
JOSEPH jnr is living with his wife, Harriet Otter, & their 7 children in Faldingworth, Lincs. He's a farmer. You can find his marriage on the IGI (www.familysearch.org)
JOHN is living with his wife, Elizabeth, & 8 children in Southorpe, Northamptonshire. Their eldest child is called Marshall so it's very likely that was Elizabeth's maiden name.
MARY married Thomas Elston. Thomas & their 2 eldest daughters are living in Bail Gate, Lincoln. He's a cordwainer (shoemaker).
EDWARD is a butcher in Ingham.
FREDERIC married Susannah Green. He's living with his wife & 3 children in Ingham. He's a wheelwright.
EDMUND is living in Ingham with his wife, Eliza, & baby daughter. Next door to JOSEPH & SARAH. He's a wheelwright.
Marriages Jun 1840
CLARKSON Caroline Lincoln 14 799
JEWITT Susan Lincoln 14 799
>>>MARSHALL Eliza Lincoln 14 799
MAWER John Lincoln 14 799
WOOD James Lincoln 14 799
>>>WOOLHOUSE Edmund Lincoln 14 799
What did I say about circles within circles.


By the 1851 JOSEPH is a widow, occupation Annuitant, born Bassingham Lincs. His married son, EDWARD - a butcher, is with him but no wife in sight.
JOSEPH jnr is still in Faldingworth with his family. He's now an innkeeper as well as a farmer.
JOHN is still in Southorpe with his family. He's farming 44 acres with 3 labourers.
MARY is in Bail Gate, Lincoln with Thomas & their 6 children. He's now a publican.
EDWARD's with his father.
FREDERIC is now a master carpenter in Ingham, still with wife & children.
EDMUND is living in Langrickville, Lincs with Eliza & 3 children. He's a carpenter.


1861:
JOSEPH jnr is still in Faldingworth with his family. Victualler & farmer of 40 acres.
JOHN & his family are still in Southorpe. Farmer of 145 acres employing 3 men & 2 boys.
MARY - as already told in Henry's story, she's in Lincoln with daughter Caroline & nephew Joseph.
EDWARD looks like he married Mary Waby. He's a butcher & has an 11 year old daughter, Sarah Waby.
Marriages Jun 1853
WABY Mary Lincoln 7a 884
Woolhouse Edward Lincoln 7a 884
FREDERIC is still a carpenter. He & his family have moved to Lincoln.
EDMUND is still a carpenter in Langrickville with Eliza.


1871:
JOSEPH jnr has died. Harriet is a widow.
JOHN, Elizabeth & a couple of children are still in Southorpe. Farmer of 148 acres employing 1 labourer & 2 boys.
MARY may have died. I can't find her on the census.
Deaths Sep 1864
ELSTON Mary Lincoln 7a 284
EDWARD continues to be a butcher in Ingham with his wife, Mary.
FREDERIC is back in Ingham. He's still a carpenter, however he's now widowed. He has an unmarried son & 2 grandaughters living with him.
EDMUND has died. Eliza is a widow in Haven Bank with their youngest, married daughter.
Deaths Dec 1861
Woolhouse Edmund Horncastle 7a 293

1881 you can check for yourself.

To go further back, HENRY was born c1841 in Saxilby, Lincolnshire to HENRY Woolhouse & ELIZABETH Toyn Booth.
IGI Individual Record
HENRY WOOLHOUSE
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH TOYN BOOTH
Marriage: 26 JUN 1834 Broxholme, Lincoln, England

Source Information:
Batch No.: M027293; Dates: 1642 - 1837


In the 1841 census HENRY & ELIZABETH had 2 daughters & 2 sons older than Henry.
MARY & ANN (probably twins) born c1836 but christened in Saxilby 5 May 1835 according to the IGI. Then there are CHARLES c1837 & JOSEPH c1839. HENRY snr is a joiner (or carpenter). In 1851 he's a master joiner which usually means he's an employer or has an apprentice. His sons are still scholars. Ann is a teacher (probably pupil-teacher) & Mary is a servant to a Wooldridge family in Lincoln.

By the 1861 census the family has scattered. HENRY jnr is also a joiner, lodging in Brightside Brierlow, Yorkshire. ANN is also in Brierlow working as a barmaid for her Aunt Ann Thompson who is an innkeeper. Interestingly Ann Thompson's son-in-law & family are living with them. His surname is Wooldridge (circles within circles). MARY has married Joseph Smith. A farmer 15 years her snr. They are living with her parents-in-law, also farmers.
Marriages Sep 1860
Smith Joseph Lincoln 7a 731
Woolhouse Mary Lincoln 7a 731
CHARLES has married a Mary Brocklebank & is living with his parent-in-law in Lincoln. He has a 7 month old son called William B Woolhouse & he's, of course, a joiner.
Marriages Sep 1860
Brocklebank Mary Lincoln 7a 750
>>>Brocklebank Mary Emily Lincoln 7a 750
Coy Ann Lincoln 7a 750
Longman James Lincoln 7a 750
>>>Woolhouse Charles Lincoln 7a 750
JOSEPH is living with his aunt, Mary Elston - more about her later. What a surprise! He's a carpenter & joiner. Also in the household is Mary's daughter Caroline. JOSEPH marries her in 1864.
Marriages Mar 1864
Cropley William Lincoln 7a 651
>>>Elston Caroline Lincoln 7a 651
Richardson Eliza Lincoln 7a 651
>>>Woolhouse Joseph Lincoln 7a 651

In the 1871 census HENRY snr & ELIZABETH are still living in Saxilby. ANN has married Henry Robinson. They & their 3 children are living in Spittlegate, Grantham. He's a chief clerk of some kind. The writing is difficult to read.
Marriages Dec 1861
Robinson Henry George Lincoln 7a 967
Woolhouse Anne Lincoln 7a 967
MARY & is still in Helmswell. It looks like her husband has inherited the farm.
CHARLES has died.
Deaths Jun 1865
Woolhouse Charles Lincoln 7a 290
Looks like his son died too.
Deaths Jun 1861
Woolhouse William Brocklebank Lincoln 7a 204
I can't find his wife, Mary.
JOSEPH is living in Lincoln with Caroline & 2 daughters. He's a carpenter with partner. Lucy Elston - widow, age 40 - is with them,
HENRY is a foreman builder living with his wife & children in Kensington.

You can look up 1881 for yourself. This free on www.familysearch.org


Ozi.

The Frank Woolhouse, the Sapper, was born in Marylebone. I think he may be a cousin of some sort.

I've been working back through the Henry's siblings. I'll add what I've found so far.

Here's Frank first.
The best thing for you to do is print it all, cut it up & sort it all out like a family tree.

However,

FRANK
Births Jun 1875
Woolhouse Frank Percy Kensington 1a 131

with siblings
ALICE
Births Mar 1871
Woolhouse Alice Susan Kensington 1a 144

FRED & HENRY - look like twins
Births Dec 1873
Woolhouse Frederick Charles Kensington 1a 121
Woolhouse Henry George Kensington 1a 121

It looks as if FRED married Bertha Hayward in 1905, & HENRY a Florence Smith or Rogers. Both Florences are possibilities, for example.

Births Jun 1913
Woolhouse Frank L Smith Camberwell 1d 1446
Woolhouse Frederick H Rogers Sheffield 9c 1212

It looks like ALICE never married, & I guess you know who FRANK married.

There are possible other siblings between the marriage of Frank's parents & their eldest surviving child, Alice. However there is at least one other family of Woolhouses in Kensington at that time so other births in that area are not necessarily immediate family.

Frank's parents are HENRY Woolhouse & SUSAN Bunting
Marriages Jun 1866
ARIS Ann Kensington 1a 120
>>>BUNTING Susan Kensington 1a 120
GILKES James Kensington 1a 120
>>>Woolhouse Henry Kensington 1a 120

In the 1881 & 1891 Henry is a builder & decorator with his sons as assistants or, in Frank's case, an apprentice in 1891. By 1901 he has branched into the Ironmongery business with all his son as Ironmonger's assistants.

I have made a tree from it all to add to the others. Thank you very much!!! ;-) Christine and Ozibird

All very interesting. I would love to know if there are any living rellies to the Woolhouse name!!??

Do you know if any were in the wars 1 or 2 ??? if you have time and don't mind any more info?

You're welcome, will get back to you later.

Christine

Thanks Christine got the censue sheets. Very kind. Its amazing to think they were written by hand in old ink pen by some poor guy all those years ago. What a job collecting census info. Walking up lanes and streets and knocking on all kinds of doors to get family household info!!! different times. Little would he know his hand writting would be there for all to see year and years later!!!

I sent you a PM with my gmail address. Thats very kind of you. I find it hard to link things, although I have done a lot via my own research and via GRU contacts. I do find this hobby very interesting but getting the certs does cost a small fortune if you want hard proof of marriages etc. I already have many but nothing on the Woolhouse name. Ozibird suggests Frank Woolhouse was in the "Sappers" (army) do any of the database systems you use have photos or info of army service and overseas emmigration abroad?? Do you think the name Woolhouse is linked to Wool or a house for keeping wool?? its seems to make sense!!

I have put all the census years for Henry born 1841 in one document, and also saved the census images so if you would like me to email them to you I will.

Just click on my name to send me a private message with your email address.

It must be overwhelming to receive so much information all at once.

Christine

My brain still hurts I think if you can think in many directions it helps! you are both masters at this. I am dyslexic but I'll print it out and pick through it. Hope I find the links.

I suppose it is a little hard to follow and a lot of information all at once.

You may find it easier to follow if you print it out.

The details are of your Henry 1841 right back to the 1841 census. His father was also called Henry and his mother Elizabeth.

I posted Henry and Elizabeth in 1861/71/81 after Henry had left the family home.

The details Ozibird put from IGI information is the marriage of Henry's parents, Henry and Elizabeth , and then one further generation back. The parents of Henry 1809 were Joseph and Sarah.

Hope you can follow this easier now.

Christine

So the parents of Henry Woolhouse 1809 were Father: JOSEPH WOOLHOUSE
Mother: SARAH

yes or am I wrong??

Who were Henry's parents?? my brain hurts! I think Henry's parents were: His father was also called Henry 1809 his mother Elizabeth is this right? Thanks Christine and Ozibird its great but can you be patient and expalin a bit to me?

Sorry to be thick but Im a bit blown away by so much info, but thanks. Unless you draw a picture Im a bit lost!! ;-(

What is the above saying? The parents of Frank Woolhouse 7th April 1875 Kensington were Henry Woolhouse 1841 Saxby and Susan Woolhouse (nee Bunting) 1839 Debden Essex.

Who were all those others????? Can you explain a bit sorry to simple. Draw a line or dots to show who is who.