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Dear all,

As part of research for my degree I am looking into the Spiritualist movement in the 19th Century.

In the autumn of 1876, Francis Ward Monck, known commonly as Dr Monck, was brought before the Huddersfield Magistrates for holding a seance at a house in the town, which seems to have ensued in a fight after it was suspected he was a conman. Out of the assembled audience he hit a man with a box, ran upstairs and espaced via the 'waterspout' (drainpipe presumably).

The Birmingham Daily Post on Saturday, October 28, 1876 stated that:

... Rev. Francis Ward Monck, formerly a minister at Bristol, but now a Spiritualistic medium, was apprehended under a warrant charging him, under the Vagrant Act, with having on the 23rd of October, used certain subtle means and devices to decieve and impose unpon her majesty's subjects.

Monck was evidently a wealthy man, although how he earned this money is not known although:

... kept his carriage and yatch at Bristol.

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper (London, England) reported on Sunday, February 11, 1877 that an:

... appeal was accordingly dismissed with costs. The accused was arrested on Friday and taken to Huddersfield. On arriving there at about 10pm. he was mobbed on his way to the police-station. Dr. Monck was taken from Huddersfield to Wakefield Gaol yesterday morning, there to undergo the three months imprisonment to which the Huddersfield magistrates sentenced him in November last.

My query is can anyone please help me try and find Dr. Monck in any offical records. All I know for definite is that he was a Reverend from Bristol in the 1870s, who seems to have been relativley wealthy (rich enough to own a yatch and carriage). I don't know where he would be in the census, his birth date or place, or his date of death, or even if he married!

I understand this is a big request, but any help is greatly appreciated, and hopefully I can include some of this research as part of my degree.

Cheers,

Peter

1871 England Census
about Francis W Monke
Name: Francis W Monke
[Francis Ward Monck]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Emma J Miller 17
Francis W Monke 29
Anna M Payne 48
Anna M Payne 15
Charles H Payne 16
Priscilla Payne 7
Samuel Payne 9
William Payne 46
Emily A Wilde 15


from my home town or city i should say

says he is a widower

occupation baptist minister

Yes this is him: I have found a reference on a website that states he was baptist minister! Thank you! I shall see what else I can find!

So he was married (presumably between 1860-1871) ... Thank you so much!

Peter

with his parents

1851 England Census
about Francis Monck
Name: Francis Monck
[Francis Ward Monck]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Landport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Monck 18
Emma Monck 15
Francis Monck 16
Henry Monck 57
Mary Monck 56

henry born portsea which is in portsmouth occupaton retired butcher

mary born landport also in portsmouth

1861 England Census
about Francis W Monck
Name: Francis W Monck
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Thrapston
Town: Thrapston
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Thrapston
Sub registration district: Thrapston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Cubitt 13
James Cubitt 53
Mary Cubitt 60
Maryann Cubitt 19
Francis W Monck 19
Roberta Treen 13
Theresa Treen 11
Eliza Wenn 41


occupation student in theology

Marriages Dec 1861
>>>>Dodwell Mary Spencer Driffield 9d 549
>>>>Monck Francis Ward Driffield 9d 549
Newlove Charlotta Driffield 9d 549
WHARRAM William Driffield 9d 549

Deaths Sep 1867
Monck Mary Spencer 34 Oxford 3a 363

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Marriages Sep 1880
Curtis George Cheltenham 6a 654
Harper Jane Cheltenham 6a 654
Monck Francis Ward Cheltenham 6a 654
Sage Clarissa Cheltenham 6a 654

Thanks Ozibird I just found those marriage too - I searcged for him on FreeBMD. He only appeared in those marriages ... there a few more for Francis Monk (ommiting the 'c') so I shall see if I can see him in there!

What do people think of this:

FRANCIS HURST MONCK Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
24 NOV 1841 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: HENRY MONCK Family
Mother: MARY ANN

on 1861 mary says mary a

1861 England Census
about Henry Morick
Name: Henry Morick
[Henry Monck]
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Landport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Morick 66
Mary A Morick 63

Thanks for this; my main interest now is what became of the man after his imprisonment. I have looked on familysearch, but nothing for 1881 ... I can't even find a death. Did he emmigrate, or have I just missed him in the later census/Free BMD death records?!

Cheers,

Peter

cant find a death or birth for him still looking

Thanks Lorriane, I too will keep looking ... what a character!

Same here.

Did you see that I added the death of his first wife - in Oxford? Though you probably found that yourself.

Ozi.

reading up on him it says he travelled a lot and even went to ireland so could be why he isnt on english census.

Did you read the correction for Francis Monck on the 1851 census? You should contact Kathryn B.

Ozi.

Yes Ozi,

Thank you I didn't find his first wifes death, and Lorraine thank you also.

I will continue looking but I must go to bed as I am up first thing. Sorry Ozi, excuse me if I am being simple, but who is Kathryn B?

Thanks again,

Peter

I.ve sent her a message{ KB that is}

Dont think Kathryn is around at present. I know a family member was ill.
She was also negotiating with Ancestry about her subscription.
Shes going by the name Janey Canuck at present

I THOUGHT the name Monck struck a bell!!!

KathrynB aka JaneyCanuck posted on Chat late last week.

I'll also send her a pm


sylvia

Thanks Lindsey.

Peter, she is the lady who made the reference to Francis Ward Monck on the 1851 census.

Ozi.