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hartnett,or hartnet,english or irish?

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Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 22:49

hi,im looking for info on a richard hartnett,born c.1885 i think marylebone london... but i keep being told he may have come from ireland,but we have no firm proof either way,its all very sketchy,any takers please,and thankyou very much in advance,we know nothing about the hartnett side

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 22:56

????

Births Jun 1885
Hartnett Richard Marylebone 1a 628


Marriages Mar 1916
Hartnett Richard Martin St.Olave 1d 360




Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 22:57

thankyou very much ,x :)

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 22:58

will i be able to locate him on the census,and are their any tips to doing that? thanks

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:00

yes,this is his marriage to matilda ,thankyou v.much for your help!!!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:03

This might be the wife.

Marriages Mar 1916
Martin Matilda _ertnett St. Olave 1d 330

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:04

Do these ring any bells?

Births Mar 1917
Hartnett Matilda M Martin Southwark 1d 69

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Births Mar 1921
Hartnett Annie Martin St.Olave 1d 324

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Births Mar 1922
Hartnett Margaret Martin St.Olave 1d 322

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Births Dec 1923
Hartnett Ethel F Martin St.Olave 1d 247


Having trouble finding him on the census.

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:05

yes this is his wife,my great grandmother,will i be able to find him on the old census and if i can will i be able to get information on his parents etc,thanks again for picking your brains!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:05

Do you have a subscription to Ancestry? That's the usual way to all census lookups.

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:06

yes,they are my grandmother ethel and her siblings,its just the hartnett sides a mystery in my family,thanks for this digging!!

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:07

no i dont,could i find him on bmd do you know?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:09

Mum & Dad?

Marriages Dec 1876
Bradley Caroline Marylebone 1a 982
HARTNETT Daniel Marylebone 1a 982
HICKS John Marylebone 1a 982
Ringley Elizabeth Annie Marylebone 1a 982


Marriages Jun 1881
HARTNETT William St. Olave 1d 449
MURPHY Margaret St Olave 1d 449
SAUNDERS Thomas St. Olave 1d 449
SIMMONS Mary Ann St. Olave 1d 449


Marriages Jun 1883
Brady Matilda St. Olave 1d 353
Brady Tilda St. Olave 1d 353
CAIN James St. Olave 1d 353
CANE James St. Olave 1d 353
CARTER Alice St. Olave 1d 353
HARTNELL Patrick St. Olave 1d 353
HARTNETT Patrick St. Olave 1d 353 <<< Irish connection?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:10

You have to buy the certs for proof of parentage (at least officially anyway).

I'll have another look around the census.


Ozi.

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:12

wow WOW WOW !!! please forgive me for jumping up and down etc etc!!! now ive just got to understand it all!!! THANKYOU

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:13

Here's Patrick & Matilda. Doesn't look like your man's there. I'll check the image.

1891 England Census
Name: Patrick Hartnett
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Crispin
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 10 Cherry Gardens

Occupation: leather dresser

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jarvis Bell 33 - lodger, jeweller
Alfred Hartnett 3
James Hartnett 15 - tanner
John Hartnett 7
Matilda Hartnett 36
Maud Hartnett 8 months
Patrick Hartnett 42
Thomas Hartnett 4
William Hartnett 5
Thomas Kenshett 60


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:20

Now here's an Irish connection for you, but your man's not here either.

1891 England Census
Name: Daniel R Hartnett
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Kerry, Ireland

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
Town: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 25 Shacklewell Row

Occupation: Metropolitan Police Constable

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel R Hartnett 34
Elizabeth Hartnett 40 - Roxwell, Essex
Elizabeth M Hartnett 6
Georgina M Hartnett 10
William Hartnett 18
Thomas White 58 - lodger


Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:20

at least im getting closer ..finally,my aunt was here today,her mum my grandmother,was richard hartnetts daughter and my aunt didnt know anything at all,she will be surprised that the gaps closing in!!

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:22

i wonder where the hell he dissappeared to,could his death help me ..even though i dont know it ...lol!!!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Oct 2008 23:28

Now here's a possible connection but their Richard jnr is too young.

1891 England Census
about Richard Hartnett
Name: Richard Hartnett
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Annie
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 5 Naubau [???] St

Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hartnett 76
Mary Hartnett 68
John Hartnett 37
Richard Hartnett 35
Annie Hartnett 31
John Hartnett 4
Danial Hartnett 3
Richard Hartnett 5 months


Richard & his family are living with his parents who were both born in Ireland.

Maxine

Maxine Report 11 Oct 2008 23:37

do you think in your opinion that its him,im a virgin to all this!!!!!