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Hello Margaret
I am getting myself confused there, because it looks as if George Emmanuel Guiyatt b 1817 did survive; because his death is 31/5/1857, is that correct

(I think Mary Ann b 1805 was born in Reading which is Berkshire that's why she's not with the other baptisms)

Sorry to trouble you again!

PAT A
I have altered the date of burial of George Emmanuel Guyatt, it seems that I typed the burial date of his mother Ann Guyatt both for herself and for him.

Hi Margaret rose
, could you possibly find details of the parents etc, of acouple who married in Oxford in the june Qtr of 1840,
They were George Pease & Sarah Mason, i beleive they were distant family of mine.
Thanking you very much in anticipation,
with regards
Allan Pease

ALLAN
Day illegible. June 1840 George Pease full age bachelor a Tailor, of Park End Street, son of Richard Pease a Cabinet Maker
Sarah Mason full age spinster of Park End Street, daughter of John Mason a Saddler
witnesses Harles Lawson, Ann Lawson.
Pease and Peace appear occasionally on the parishes I searched.

Hi Margaret Rose
, Many thanks for taking the time to look for me, that is definatley him don't know why he went all the way from Leeds to get married he later moved to Lancaster, then he was eventualy a Gentleman in Kensington, strange where people end up.
Don't know of any other Pease's of my family down in Oxford but will keep looking.
Once again many thanks

allan

Hi Margaret, hope you are well.

I wonder if you could check to see if you can find a baptism in Towersey for Emanuel (or Emmanuel) SMITH. I have his marriage cert from 1839 which has him aged 20, and he is on 1841 census aged 22, so I would imagine he was born around 1819/1820.

I have info from another contact that his parents were William SMITH and a Sarah, but I have not confirmed this.

Not sure you will have these records as Towersey was then Bucks although now Oxon.

You did find his grandson's baptism for me (Thomas William Smith baseborn son of Marie Smith baptised Towersey 16/5/1869).

Many thanks

Helen

HELEN
Emanuel Smith baptised 23/1/1822 son of William and Sarah of this parish.(Towersey)
I have Towersey from baps 1581 to 1886, marrs 1542 to 1837 burs1592 to 1951 if it helps.

Wow Margaret, that was quick, thanks.

I wonder if you could track down the parents' marriage if you wouldn't mind. Of course, William, Sarah and Smith are all pretty common names! There are a William and Sarah Smith both listed as age 60 on the 1841, so if they got married at 20 ish then this would be around 1800, maybe from then any time up to Emanuel's baptism. On the 1851 William is 70 and Sarah 74, in the next household to Emanuel and his family, so maybe a marriage even a bit before 1800.

Any other siblings to Emanuel that you could find would be great, on the 1841 census there is a William H Smith, age 10, with William and Sarah but not sure if he would be their son, as they would both have been relatively old by then.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

Helen

Hello Margaret

I don't know how far back the records go, they may not go back this far, but if so could you please see if you can find the birth of:

Jonathan Whetton, probably Lower Heyford and about 1680.
He married Hannah Edwards in Lower Heyford in 1701, and he died in 1719 (the same year that his son Jonathan Whetton was born).

Thank you

Pat

HELEN
William Smith of Towersey married in Chinnor Sarah West 2/1/1803 witnesses John Bowden, Esther ?? Melt.
Baptisms in Towersey of Wm Smith and Sarah
8/8/1803 James
7/6/1806 George
22/6/1810 Thomas
17/12/1812 Susannah
23/1/1822 Emanuel


TOWERSEY baptisms continued
8/1/1826 Alfred son of George and Sarah
8/1/1826 Emma daughter of George and Sarah
31/8/1828 William henry son of George and Sarah
13/6/1830 George son of George and Sarah
9/9/1832 John son of George and Sarah

Towersey Baptisms continued
29/8/1826 Kizzia daughter of James and Rebecca lab of this parish

Towersey bapt continued
30/7/1837 Sarah bastard daughter of Susannah Smith , poor, aged 3 yrs 8 months

Towersey bapts continued
25/12/1837 Henry son of William and Kezia labourer


Towersey bapt continued
16/5/1869 Thomas William baseborn son of Marie Smith
6/10/1878 Phebe Jane baseborn daughter of Emily Smith aged 5 years

Towersey bapt continued
23/2/1840 Elizabeth daughter or Emanuel and mary labourer of this parish
1/12/1844 Martha ditto
6/6/1847 Maria ditto
17/2/1850 Eliza ditto
22/7/1855 Annie ditto
11/3/1862 Emma ditto.

Towersey BURIALS
19//6/1867 William Smith aged 86 yrs
4/12/1816 William smith aged 64 yrs of Towersey
23/11/1900 Emanuel Smith aged 81 yrs
Phebe Jane was buried in 1896.

MARRIAGES Towersey
31/3/1837 William smith bachelor of this parish
Kezia Ives of this parish
witnesses William Morris, Ann melin.

Get back to me if you need to.

PAT A
13/3/1677 Lower heyford baptism John son of Jonathan Whetton
Burial Lower Heyford only one
9/6/1719 Jonathan Whetten son of Jon.Whetton junior.
Marriage Jonathan Whetton married hannah Edwards 12/6/1701 both of this parish Lower heyford.

thanks Margaret, just one quick qu, are the baptisms at the top of your post for two different families (William and Sarah an George and Sarah)?
William Smith of Towersey married in Chinnor Sarah West 2/1/1803 witnesses John Bowden, Esther ?? Melt.
Baptisms in Towersey of Wm Smith and Sarah
8/8/1803 James
7/6/1806 George
22/6/1810 Thomas
17/12/1812 Susannah
23/1/1822 Emanuel
TOWERSEY baptisms continued
8/1/1826 Alfred son of George and Sarah
8/1/1826 Emma daughter of George and Sarah
31/8/1828 William henry son of George and Sarah
13/6/1830 George son of George and Sarah
9/9/1832 John son of George and Sarah


thanks

Helen

Thanks Margaret for the Whetton information; didn't realise you could go back that far!

Very pleased, thank you so much

Pat

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As suggested, I place a request for Oxfordshire Look ups for the following, from, look up Harman Huckwell


Please can you help, I m looking for the baptism of Sarah c1837 & Charles Henry 1839 children of Charles & Ruth Harman, Bee Jay searched Witney & Bampton, they were not found, I particularly wanted Sarah’s to see if she had a second name ?
as I found this marriage, please can you look it up, 1858 Sarah Eliza Harman & Henry James Paine, Witney, in the1861 census index there is a Sarah of the right age.

also Elizabeth Davis Harman born 1849 Witney, Ox ,d of Charles & Ruth, she on 1851 age 2,Corn Street, Witney, Oxfordshire not on 1861, I cant see her in the census Index, no Death found Witney?
Thank you.
Ann

ANN
27/9/1858 Witney St Mary... Henry James Paine full age bachelor an Innkeeper son of James a porter
Sarah Eliza Harman full age spinster daughter of Charles a Cloth Draper.
witnesses Charles Harman, Ellen Buckingham

1/8/1866 Charles Harwood full age bachelor of Cogges son of William a shoemaker
Mary Emma Harman full age spinster daughter of Charles a clothes dealer
witnesses John Harwood, Mary ann Roberts

Witney St Mary
a burial for Sarah Harman aged 41 yrs 10/8/1836.. this may be the first wife of Charles Harman.

Charles Harman born circa 1790 Dursley Gloucestershire
buried Witney Cemetery 29/5/1863 aged 73 years of Corn Street.

Charles Harman married Witney St Mary 28/11/1836 Ruth Davis he a widower she a spinster
witnesses Eliza Davis, Edward Spruce.. he later a lodger with Ruth Harman on the 1851 census he a pensioner.

Ruth Davis was the daughter of James an Elizabeth Davis ,and she was baptised 24/12/1815 Faringdon.

Charles and Ruth had the following children baptised in Witney St Mary
Mary Emma 28/3/1841
George Edward 12/3/1843
Thomas James 11/4/1847
Elizabeth Davis 9/9/1849
William Frederick 2/3/1845

The two children you mentioned Sarah and Charles were not baptised in Witney St Mary nor Witney Trinity, not the the non conformist churches in Witney.
They may have been taken back to Dursley in Gloucestershire for baptism.

Hi Margaret Rose,

Thank you very much for your very prompt reply,& all the info you sent, that is great, I didn’t expect think you would be that quick, I thought you would be sitting in the garden with your feet up having a glass of something cold.

I have looked for Sarah and Charles in Dursley Gloucestershire for baptisms, but didn’t find them, may be his father moved? but you have found the marriage so that confirmed her name was Sarah Eliza.
Thank you once again ,
Ann

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