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Kayak

Kayak Report 1 Jun 2009 17:44

Hi Margaret,

A BIG THANK YOU for all your time and effort .

Best Wishes

Christine

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 10 Jun 2009 16:09

Nudge for Nicky

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 10 Jun 2009 16:16

Hi Margaret

I am looking for the batptism of a Caroline Smith, born 1844 approx. in Towersey (this is now in Oxon but has at times been in Bucks so not sure if you have the records). Father I think Emanuel Smith and mother Mary Smith nee Andrews. I have sent off for 2 birth certs for her but neither is the right one so I am now thinking her birth wasn't registered.

In the same parish I am looking for a baptism for Thomas Smith born 4th September 1861. I have his birth cert which has his mother's name as Caroline Smith and no father, just wondering if the baptism record might show a father's name.

Many thanks in advance for your kind offer of help.

Helen

Margaret

Margaret Report 12 Jun 2009 08:13

SANDRA
Private email

Margaret

Margaret Report 12 Jun 2009 09:02

HELEN
These are the children Emanuel and Mary Smith had baptised in Towersey

23/2/1840 Elizabeth

1/12/1844 Martha

6/6/1847 Maria

17/2/1850 Eliza

22/7/1855 Annie

11/3/1862 Emma

I looked on the 1841 census, and Elizabeth is there aged 1 yr

I looked on the 1851 census and Caroline is there aged 10 yrs, in between Elizabeth and Martha, so she exists, but is not baptised in Towersey. I know you have looked at these records yourself, but I needed to look myself for corroboration of what I found in the transcripts.

I wonder if she was baptised in Westcott Bucks where her mother came from, I do not have these records, but you could ask the Bucks family history society if they would have a look for you.

Emanuel Smith was buried aged 81 yrs Towersey 23/11/1900

Mary Smith was buried aged 48 yrs 5/12/1863 Towersey.

As for the Thomas Smith baptism, there is not one in 1861 or thereabouts in Towersey, but is Caroline in Brill at that date? as a dairymaid? if so perhaps the child was baptised there.

There is a baptism for

Thomas William Smith baseborn son of Marie Smith baptised Towersey
16/5/1869

Hope you find the baptism for Caroline, and Thomas soon, Margaret.

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 12 Jun 2009 11:24

Margaret, thank you, Helen

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 13 Jun 2009 08:27

Hi Margaret, I wonder if I could prevail on your good nature and ask for another look up, please let me know if this is going beyond the call of duty!

You recently looked up various Smiths in Towersey for me.
I think the Thomas William Smith you found could be my husband's g-grandfather (I think the cert I have for Thomas Smith son of Caroline could be the wrong one). I think Thomas William "baseborn" son of Maria cold be my man and I think Maria and Caroline were sisters, although we haven't found Caroline on the baptism records. I think the 1871 census with a Thomas and a William both grandsons of Emanuel Smith could hold the clue as I think William could be Thomas William ... oh if only there was someone to ask who remembered!

Please could you look up a marriage between Maria Smith and Joseph Brackley in Towersey in the summer of 1881 and let me know who their fathers are (if this is shown in the records).

Many thanks for your help.

Helen

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 25 Jun 2009 15:53

Hi Margaret

I wonder if you would be good enough to help me with another query.

My 3G grandmother, Mary UNKNOWN, married Michael IVEY in around 1820 in the Oxford/Abingdon area. I have been unable to find a marriage ref for this on the IGI to find out her maiden surname.

Michael IVEY died in 1845 in Abingdon. Mary IVEY, his widow, then remarried a Charles COOK on 20th October 1856 at St Michael's parish church in Oxford.

I have her marriage cert where she is named Mary IVEY with no other name, e.g. maiden name given, age 52, widow, her father's name is given as John IVEY (which is strange, as IVEY is her name from her first marriage not her maiden name).

I know its the right marriage as three of her children, including my 2G grandmother, are witnesses.

My query is whether the original parish register for this marriage shows her maiden name and/or a different name for her father.

I'd be very grateful if you could have a look for me.

Many thanks

Helen

Beejay

Beejay Report 25 Jun 2009 18:29

Hi Margaret Rose

Hope I'm not treading on your toes here but read Helens post and was going through my Oxford parish records and think I can help her

Hi Helen
Here's the details of Marys marriage toCharles Cook

20 Oct 1856 St Michaels Oxford after Banns

Charles Cook widow age 65 Bailiff 6 Market Street son of John
Mary Ivey widow 8 Market Street daughter of John Gardener
Both made their mark
Witnesses: Arthur Ivey Susan Hythe? and Zillilla Ivey

Hope this is the one you're looking for
Sorry once again Margaret for hijacking

Barb

Helen in Bucks

Helen in Bucks Report 25 Jun 2009 19:11

Barb, that makes much more sense, thank you, the marriage cert has her father as John IVEY and his occupation as "gardner". Also Susan, her daughter, the witness on cert as IVEY, when by that point she was married to Joseph HYDE, so Susan HYDE makes much more sense. Arthur IVEY and Zettila IVEY are Mary's children. Will try to find her as Mary Gardner and see if I can track down her birth. Many thanks, Helen

Corinne

Corinne Report 25 Jun 2009 19:29

Hi Margaret,

Could you help me by finding anything for my Gx3 Grandfather William Luckett (born c1790 Hook Norton).

I have him in 1841 census with wife Ann ? (born c1796 Oxfordshire) in 1841. Ann died before 1851 census.The oldest child I have is William (born c1820 Hook Norton) - can you find a marriage pre1820 in Hook Norton? William is listed as Ag Lab/shepherd in censuses.

I would like a marriage to give me Ann maiden name, and/or a baptism for William (c1790), if possible.

Many thanks & regards,

Corinne Luckett

Margaret

Margaret Report 26 Jun 2009 11:14

HELEN
sorry the Towersey transcript only goes up to 1837 .

Margaret

Margaret Report 26 Jun 2009 12:03

CORINNE

William Luckett bachelor of this parish married in Hook Norton 25/10/1818

Ann Izod who made her mark, spinster of this parish, but not baptised there
by Banns witnesses
Benjamin Busby, Mary Izod who made her mark, Joseph Phipps

There is a baptism in Hook Norton for

William Luckett 6/12/1789 son of William and Margaret

I can find no marriage in oxfordshire for William and Margaret.

There is a baptism in Hook Norton for

William Luckett son of William

also one for

Thomas Luckett son of William and Mary

19/8/1770, so if William is the brother of Thomas his parents are
William and Mary as well.

There are no marriages in Hook Norton for William Luckett and Mary but
There is a marriage in Swerford for

William Luckett of Radford parish of Enstone to Mary Hitchman 17/3/1765
he a labourer by Banns she spinster of this parish
witnesses John Woodeard, John Whiter.

there are no children born in Swerford nor in Enstone, so probably he took her back to Hook Norton to have their family.ieThomas 1770 and William 1768.

It would be nice to go back further but there are 3 William Lucketts born in 5 years, in Hook Norton,and it is not possible quickly to decide which is the William's baptism of the chap who married Mary Hitchman

Hope this helps.

Corinne

Corinne Report 29 Jun 2009 09:47

Hi Margaret,

Thanks for the Luckett info. A follow-up request, if possible and if you have time..

"There is a baptism in Hook Norton for

William Luckett 6/12/1789 son of William and Margaret"

Could you look and see if their are any likely baptisms for siblings of William (1789) in Hook Norton.

"William Luckett bachelor of this parish married in Hook Norton 25/10/1818

Ann Izod who made her mark, spinster of this parish, but not baptised there
by Banns witnesses
Benjamin Busby, Mary Izod who made her mark, Joseph Phipps"

Is it possible to look for any Ann Izod baptisms c1796 in Oxfordshire or do you need to search by parish? I'm not sure how common the name Izod was but have found censuses for Izod's from Chipping Norton - maybe you could look there?...

Thank you and best regards,

Corinne Luckett

Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Jul 2009 12:46

CORINNE

There is a baptism in Chipping Norton for

Hannah Izard daughter of William Izard and Ann Tennant an illegitimate child 5/2/1792.

There is a marriage for William Izard in Chipping Norton 25/10/1784
to Hannah Gardiner, and she is buried in Chip Nort aged 22 yrs 29/5/1786

The Izzards abound in Oxfordshire, and the above is only added as you mentioned Chipping Norton.

Hook Norton.




Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Jul 2009 12:51

CORINNE
The previous post was interrupted so here goes for the rest
You wanted siblings for William Luckett bapt 6/12/1789 Hook Norton

Mary bapt 9/4/1780 daughter of William and Margaret
Hannah 28/9/1777 ditto
William 25/7/1775 ditto
Elizabeth 3/11/1771 buried 23/6/1772 an infant
Elizabeth 18/4/1773

William Luckett father of above children was buried Hook Norton 11/2/1822 aged 82 yrs
Margaret mother of the above children was buried Hook Norton 8/2/1824 aged 80 yrs
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Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Jul 2009 12:55

CORRINNE

Sorry I keep getting chucked off by Genes perhaps my replies are too long...

There is a baptism in Hook Norton William Luckett buried 1822 in Hook Norton 5/12/1740 son of John Luckett
There is a baptism for a Marget daughter of James Cokel 8/4/1744
I am not saying that this is the Margaret mother of the children, but the date agrees with her death age.
There is another Marget baptised a couple of years earlier, but as they got the correct age at death for her husband, perhaps they managed it for her as well. I cannot find any marriages for Cokel on the marriage disc, so perhaps she should really be a Coker or Cockerell both of which are in Hook

Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Jul 2009 12:56

CORINNE
Chucked off again
Both of which are in Hook Norton at the time.
I hope this was of use, sorry it is spread over so many posts, not my fault. Regards Margaret

David

David Report 7 Jul 2009 19:26

Hello Margaret.
Thank you for your offer and time. I'am looking for the parents of, John WALKMAN B abt 1725 @ Lower Heyford or Wooton and his wife Elizabeth BARRET B abt 1725.
Their son Richard WARKMAN (spelling change) B abt 1753 @ Lower Heyford married Elizabeth GILKES B abt 1747 @ Adderbury (her parents please).
Their son Thomas WARKMAN B abt1789 @ Adderbury, I think married his cousin Hannah GILKES B abt 1785 @ Bloxham and her parents could be, Richard GILKES & Mary SIDE, can you confirm and if so can you find their parents.
I hope this is not asking to much, but anything of the above people would be v/good. The Wal(r)kman name changed eventually to Workman.

Regards Dave B

Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Jul 2009 10:27

DAVID
John Walkman married Elizabeth Barret Lower Heyford 1/10/1749 no other information on transcript.
They had Jane bapt 5/8/1750 Lower Heyford
John 31/5/1752 ditto buried 8/2/1754 Lower Heyford
Richard 2/12/1753
William 24/10/1756

RICHARD WARKMAN bapt 2/12/1753 married Elizabeth Gilkes 18/4/1779 Adderbury both made their marks by Banns witnesses John Hartell, Richard Butler.
Richard Warkman was buried in 1824 Adderbury Elizabeth buried 1811 Adderbury.

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