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ValT

ValT Report 12 Sep 2008 23:20

Hi John sorry to have confused you but there seems to be 2 Collette Degnans. One was born Collette Degnan in 1936 and the other was born Colette Griffin in 1945 and she had a stepdad who was a Degnan. It is this Colette ( Griffin/ Degnan ) that married a Malcom Duncan.

You say your mum was born in 1936, does your birth certificate spell her name Collette with 2 Ls or one?

Please get in touch again and tell us all that you know, even a small thing may help. When was the last time you saw your mum?

Did your dad ever talk about her and her family?

Regards
ValT

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Sep 2008 21:01

I think what has happened John, is that there are two Collettes and the researchers are trying to work out which one is your mother. I will send one of them a private message to get back to you. Hope this helps.

John

John Report 12 Sep 2008 20:44

sorry but cant work out what people are saying getting differnt names can someone tell me what it all means please ..

ValT

ValT Report 11 Sep 2008 10:56

I am checking to see if there were any children born Harrison mmmn Degnan 1955-1964

I have checked up to 1960 and found 1 a female J in Mar 1957.

Will be back later today.

ValT

ValT

ValT Report 11 Sep 2008 10:35

Hi I have noticed the spelling of Collette or Colette and think I would buy this death cert just to see who the informant was.

Name: Collette Harrison
Birth: 14 Dec 1936 ( onlt 1 Collette born at this time)
Death: Jan 1989 - Leeds, Yorkshire

Collette Degnan mother's maiden name Eggett
Mar 1937
Dewsbury
9b 757

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 11 Sep 2008 09:43

Thanks for finding that info Deborah - I've now found the birth of the Colette Griffin who married Malcom Duncan in 1962 and it confirms her mother's maiden name as Astin.

Colette Griffin mmn Astin 1945 Q3 Dewsbury 9b 676

I may be wrong but it looks like 2 different people? We have Ruby Astin married to Edward Griffin in 1940 daughter Colette Griffin born 1945.

Ruby Griffin nee Astin then remarries to John P Degnan in 1954 when Colette is 9 years old.

Colette Degnan/Griffin (born Griffin but using stepfathers name) marrys Malcolm Duncan in 1962.

This Colette above consistently has only one L in her name, whereas the posters mother Collette is spelt with 2 L's as per the marriage I posted last night:
Collette Degnan to Albert E Harrison 1955 Q1 Dewsbury 2b 749

What do others think?

Mary

John

John Report 11 Sep 2008 09:35

hi,she was a duncan before 1964 nuless my birth cert is not right thanks john..

Sheila

Sheila Report 11 Sep 2008 08:06

Hi Debirah,

Found both that brother plus another one James, bad news is they have passed on :O(
At the moment it looks like Collette Degnan, has become a Griffin/Duncan/Cooper before 1964.
Now we have to find her after this : O)

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 10 Sep 2008 23:34


Ok, found her 1st marriage:

Collette Degnan to Albert E Harrison 1955 Q1 Dewsbury 2b 749

Now off to search for marriage of Collette Harrison to a ? Duncan

Mary

Victor

Victor Report 10 Sep 2008 23:20

Sylvia

If you follow the Griffin entry it state Colette Griffin married a Duncan with the same ref as you quoted.


John Anthony.

The information that has been passed to you is taken from the national marriage register that lists all marriages. The entry in question states this.

Colette Degnan or Griffen married Malcolm Duncan in Oct-Dec 1962 at Spen Valley, reference :- Volume 2D Page 246.

So it would appear that Colette was either married to a Griffen before she married Malcolm, or there is a mixup in the register and it cannot be decided what her maiden names was,Degnan or Griffen.

Hope this makes it clearer for you.

Victor

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 10 Sep 2008 23:19

Hi

I think this marriage ties in somehow with the one Sylvia found?:

John P Degnan to Ruby Griffin or Astin 1954 Q2 Dewsbury

Mary

John

John Report 10 Sep 2008 21:14

her name on my birth cert is collette duncan[formerly]degnan

John

John Report 10 Sep 2008 21:11

hi,sorry dont no were your getting griffen from

Sheila

Sheila Report 10 Sep 2008 21:01

John

Have sent you a pm, but Colette had two brother who also appear to have passed on in 1988 and 1988.
Right just to confirm there is the marriage in Oct-Dec 1962 for a Colette not Collette (is this right ? in Spen Valley ) Degnan or Griffin to a Malcolm Duncan, Val has not been able to trace a marriage for a Charlotte Degnan to a Griffin however, from 1952- 1962.
You and your brother where born Cooper, but I can find no marriage for a Duncan to a Cooper till your Brothers birth in 1964.
One other thing I have found 4 Degnans living in Dewsbury still I am wondering if these could be your cousins.
May have to check under her previous names.
She was born a Degnan, but Val has not been able to find a marriage for her to a Griffin

ValT

ValT Report 10 Sep 2008 19:22

You can find the full Births Deaths and Marriages on Ancestry and Findmypast. Both these sites are ones you pay for.

I have looked from 1952 to 1962 marriages and found no marriage to Griffin.

John

John Report 10 Sep 2008 19:08

can you tell me were you found this please.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 10 Sep 2008 18:42

Hi John,
Have found this marriage.

Colette Degnan married Malcolm Duncan OND quarter 1962 Spen Valley volume 2d page 746.
On cross checking Duncan to find his christian name says Malcolm Duncan married Degnan or Griffin, looks to me if she was married before?

Sylvie

John

John Report 10 Sep 2008 17:33

i was born 27.2.67 in dewsbury ,john anthony cooper, my mums name on my birt cert is collette duncan,formely degnan,my dads name is edmund cooper dont no if they were married after i was born this is all i no any help would be gratfull thankyou...

John

John Report 10 Sep 2008 14:56

HI,SORRY I DONT NO THANKYOU..

Sheila

Sheila Report 10 Sep 2008 14:25

Hi

I cannot find her either on the elec roll, there is oly 1 match for this name and this is in Burnley Lancashire, do you think she could have re -married ?