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Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 14:20

I have a Frederick Charles Jesse Ellis born 1893 London. He married in Montreal Canada to Emma Shacknell. Emma was born c1892.
I would be grateful for any information.
Thanks
Gail

Suzi-Wong

Suzi-Wong Report 17 Aug 2008 14:57

Here he is travelling with his wife Emma. He is a metal sheet worker.

Frederick C J Ellis Jr
Arrival Date: Feb 1919
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1894
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Island Pond, Vermont, USA

He is headed for London..presumably Ontario.

Suzanne

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Aug 2008 15:00

I can't find anyone in Canada with surname Shacknell on either the 1901 or 1911 census.

Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 15:00

Suzi,
Thank you for that. Can you point me in the direction of getting more info on them.

Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 15:32

Can any one else help?
I am a little confused by the Passenger entry. Where is he going and where did he sail from?

Suzi-Wong

Suzi-Wong Report 17 Aug 2008 15:58

They are travelling from Canada to Vermont, USA. The only other info given is that Frederick is from Finsbury, London, England.

Suzanne

Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 16:00

Thank you very much.
Where did up get this info from?
Gail

Suzi-Wong

Suzi-Wong Report 17 Aug 2008 16:05

Ancestry.ca...I have full membership.

Suzanne

Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 16:09

Do you think I would find more if I asked for someone to do a find my past look up.

Suzi-Wong

Suzi-Wong Report 17 Aug 2008 18:50

Sorry..don't know what else there might be.

Suzanne

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 17 Aug 2008 19:21

Gail:

Could they have been returning to England for a visit?
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Frederick C J Ellis Jr
Arrival Date: Feb 1919
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1894
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Island Pond, Vermont, USA

On the second page:
"Whether going to join a relative or friend; and if so, what relative or friend, and his name and complete address":
Father: Joshua Ellis, Fins?sburg, London
Listed under Emma's information: Mo.? Mrs. Edith Slacker???, Islington, Eng

So, perhaps they entered America, only to board a ship for London, England???

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Aug 2008 19:30

I think what Lisa is saying makes sense. If they were going back to England, they were probably heading for New York or Boston to board a ship. If they were leaving Montreal by car, Island Pond, Vermont could be the border crossing location.. being south of Montreal.

Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 19:52

Hey that does seem to make sense. This now opens up a whole list of questions.
Did they stay in England?
Was his wife from Canada?
What was her surname?
I could go on.

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 17 Aug 2008 20:02

This could be his birth reference. Holborn is in London.

Births Jun 1893
Ellis Frederick Charles J Holborn 1b 770

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 17 Aug 2008 20:04

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Emma Ellis
Arrival Date: Feb 1919
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1893
Birth Country: England
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Island Pond, Vermont, USA

According to the immigration record (which I'm having difficulty reading):
Mother? Mrs. Edith Slacker??, Islington, Eng
Emma born England
She was 5'1"
L. Brn Hair
Eyes: looks like Gr, cannot tell
Frederick: 5'8-1/2"?; dark? hair; Bro? eyes; born Eng, Fins?burg

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Aug 2008 20:05

Do you know for certain that they married in Montreal, Gail?

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 17 Aug 2008 20:06

If Emma is visiting her mother in Islington, this is a possible birth

Births Mar 1892
Shackell Emma Marion Islington 1b 377

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 17 Aug 2008 20:09

deleted wrong marriage

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Aug 2008 20:13

1901 England Census
about Emma Shackell
Name: Emma Shackell
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington, South-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Shackell 40
Blanch Shackell 13
Edith Shackell 16
Emma Shackell 9
Florence Shackell 18
Francis Shackell 44
Francis Shackell 11
James Shackell 5
James Young 62

Rose

Gail

Gail Report 17 Aug 2008 20:14

Thank you all so much for your input.
No I do not know for sure that they were married in Montreal. Tobe honest I don't know much about them at all.
Gail