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Can you not be on the 1881 census ?

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Melster

Melster Report 25 Jul 2008 18:58

I was just wondering if there were instances of people not being recorded on the 1881 Census. Perhaps if they were travelling between Counties on the day of the Census ?

Thanks

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 25 Jul 2008 20:03

Melanie, I have relatives that are not on various census from 1841-1901, there are various reasons, some where ruined, some people may have simply just been out when the enumerator called, so wern`t entered for that reason. Are you sure they hav`nt been mistranscribed? why don`y you give some details and see if anyone can help.


Nicky

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jul 2008 20:07

There are people missing on all censuses, for various reasons, as Nicky said.


However, the most common reason for not finding someone on a census is that they have been mistranscribed, the enumerator spelt their name wrong, the birthplace has been entered differently from what you specified in the search.


Generally, the more information you enter into the search, the less success you will have!



Blame our illiterate ancestors, who didn't know how to spell their names, weren't sure when or where they were born, and only slightly more literate enumerators!!



As Nicky said, put the name up on here and see if someone can help you



sylvia

Melster

Melster Report 25 Jul 2008 20:10

Thanks

I have posted 3 times for this and nobody can find them. Have even looked through 1000's of records on Ancestry inputting no name and still haven't had any luck.

Think they want to remain missing,

Melanie

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Jul 2008 20:13

Go on Melanie, maybe fourth time lucky?

Selena

Melster

Melster Report 25 Jul 2008 21:24

Thats them Helen !!

I have tried everything .. Am now 3000 records in to 27,000 for no name born 1880 on Ancestry.

Have got the Birth Certificate of their second child born 1880 in Lady Balk, Pontefract and they have another child 1 year later so I would think they would still be there.

Here are the names again !!

William Gregory .. b1857 .. Wollerton, Salop
Sarah Gregory .. b1860 .. Aston, Staffs

William Thomas Gregory .. b 1878 .. Madeley, Staffs
Mary Ann Gregory .. b1880 .. Lady Balk, Pontefract, Yorkshire.

Melanie

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Jul 2008 21:47

Sorry Melanie, no luck. I can only suggest that someone may have incorrectly copied down the surname above them on the sheet in the previous (or same) household.

Don't give up. I found a missing 1881 after 4 years and many postings on here. Have you looked for Sarah/William's parents to see if they are with them but mistranscribed?


Selena

Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 25 Jul 2008 21:58

Here is a suggestion

Instead of trawling through names try going through the districts.

Seing as you have the 1880 birth cert does it mention anything about a parish? If it does locate that parish (and the district(s) in the 1881 census then go through the district page by page.

I have one lot misindexed in 1891 as Gresham when the name is Chambers. I only found them by going through the parish image by image and lo and behold the image said Chambers...........address, Gresham Street.

Glen

Melster

Melster Report 25 Jul 2008 22:08

Hi Glen

Unfortunately I don't had subscription to Ancestry so I can't look at the original image and can only go by the first names and ages matching.

It doesn't mention a Parish on the birth certificate .. just 'Lady Balk' Pontefract. I can only find a Lady Balk Lane in Pontefract not a district.

I will find them .. I keep going away and coming back to it.

Thanks

Melanie

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 25 Jul 2008 22:50

Hi Melanie,

Could this not be Sarah?

1881

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William MITCHELL Head M Male 40 Bedford, England Coachman (D)
Louisa MITCHELL Wife M Female 33 Hertford, England
Charles MITCHELL Son Male 13 Hertford, England Scholar
Frederick MITCHELL Son Male 11 Hertford, England Scholar
Lizzie MITCHELL Dau Female 9 Hertford, England Scholar
James MITCHELL Son Male 4 Stafford, England Scholar
Arthur MITCHELL Son Male 2 Stafford, England
Sarah GREGORY Sister U Female 19 Hertford, England
Mary G. MITCHELL Dau Female 6 m Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 118 Tantara St
Census Place Walsall Borough, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341675
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2822 / 102
Page Number 17

Melster

Melster Report 25 Jul 2008 23:03

Hi Betty Boo

Sarah would have been married with a 3 year old and a 1 year old child.

Thanks

Melanie

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 25 Jul 2008 23:07

Then there is this one for Mary Ann (the daughter in this census.) aged 7 months.


Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John GREGORY Head M Male 32 Sheffd, York, England Steel Melter
Mary A. GREGORY Wife M Female 30 Rotherham, York, England
Levina GREGORY Dau Female 9 Sheffd, York, England Scholar
Wm. GREGORY Son Male 7 Sheffd, York, England Scholar
Elizbth. GREGORY Dau Female 4 Sheffd, York, England Scholar
Mary Ann GREGORY Dau Female 7 m Sheffd, York, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 91 Princess St
Census Place Brightside Bierlow, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342127
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4662 / 147
Page Number 12


Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 25 Jul 2008 23:12

Found them

Pontefract, All Saints

Living on Lady Back Lane

i have saved the image if you want it.

Glen

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 25 Jul 2008 23:14

Melanie

What is the address's on both the certs?

I can do an address search for you...

Tracye

Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 25 Jul 2008 23:21

Heaven knows what the index must say, anyway if anyone wants to check the image c&p this link

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m146/glenintinselknickers/stuff/1881censusWilliamGregory.jpg

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 25 Jul 2008 23:21



Dont keep us in suspense post the details here

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 25 Jul 2008 23:24

Glen

The image has been reduced in size, so when magnified all i get is a blur !!

Wanna post the census class/piece/folio details...


Tracey

Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 25 Jul 2008 23:27

They are just as posted for date and place of birth but not indexed correctly.

If you go to Pontefract All Saints then they are fifth line down, image 23 of 24 for the district.

Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 25 Jul 2008 23:38

Find this chap then go to image 23 of the 24

William Wilson
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann J.
Gender: Male
Where born: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Pontefract All Saints
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: The Butts
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Brick Maker

Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Pontefract
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann J. Wilson 50
Florence M. Wilson 12
Norman O. Wilson 14
William Wilson 56


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Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4590; Folio: 9; Page: 12; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342108.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 25 Jul 2008 23:40

Glen,

I am not getting the same results as you...??

Tracey