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Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 22:35

Hi,
can anyone help me. My Great Grandfather was killed in the 1st world war. Because my great grandmother remarried his memory was lost through time, although to be fair, me and my dad were christened with his surname as our middle names. I would like to know where he fell and was buried so that me and my dad can visit. His name was Robert Smith and he was a Private in the 1st Battalion Cameronian Scottish Rifles. He died in 1914. I have a lead on one individual but need to confirm his next of kin and that's where it is difficult as there are no records in scotland. I have his number which is 8761, not many Robert Smith's of the Scottish Rifles were killed in 1914 according to the record Soldiers Died.
So if there is anyone out there who can tell me where next to look or can help me in some way please do.
Regards
Robert

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 22:40

Casualty Details
Name: SMITH
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 22/10/1914
Service No: 8761
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. G. 13.
Cemetery: RUE-DAVID MILITARY CEMETERY, FLEURBAIX

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 22:41

Cemetery Details
Cemetery: RUE-DAVID MILITARY CEMETERY, FLEURBAIX
Country: France
Locality: unspecified
Visiting Information: The location or design of this site make wheelchair access impossible. For further information regarding wheelchair access, please contact our enquiries department on 01628 634221.
Location Information: Fleurbaix is a village about 5 kilometres south-west of Armentieres. Rue-David Military Cemetery lies to the south-east of the village. Leave Fleurbaix heading towards Armentieres, 300 metres from the centre of Fleurbaix turn right towards Bois Grenier. After a further 1 kilometre turn right again, follow the road round a sharp left hand bend, and the Cemetery is approximately 500 metres further on.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 22:43

or this one....

Casualty Details
Name: SMITH, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 22/10/1914
Service No: 5723
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 38 and 40.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 22:44

I wonder if there is some confusion and this is indeed the same guy??

Tracey

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 22:45

Hi Wayne/Tracey,
Many thanks, does the info mention next of kin, if it does does it mention Isabella Smith, Sandyfaulds Street Glasgow
Robert

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jun 2008 22:47

His medal card is on Ancestry.......if you send me your e-mail via PM, I'll forward the image to you.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 22:47

everything it mentions is already posted

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 22:47

Its a different regiment, the Cameronian Scottish Rifles are from Lanarkshire a lowland regiment.
Thanks though
Robert

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 22:50

it could be an error of listing...

very weird same name, same date, and Cameron mentioned thats all...

Tracey

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 22:52

Reggie,
I have sent my e-mail address to you, thank you very much. Wayne/Tracey likewise many thanks
Robert

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 22:54

Yeh, it is spooky, maybe it is an error or maybe two Smiths killed in action on the same day.
Robert

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 23:09

Hi LFW,
more meat on the bone, ta very much, the Glasgow link is really good and I need to find the area Barony covered.
Robert

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 23:11

I have Scotlands People if you wish me to look...

Tracey

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 23:17

Looks like there were 2 Roberts....

1914 SMITH ROBERT M 29 SERVICE AND WAR RETURNS /MINOR RECORDS 129/AF 0001

1914 SMITH ROBERT M 32 SERVICE AND WAR RETURNS /MINOR RECORDS 116/AF 0069

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 23:19

Tracey, wow, are these records available for scrutiny, what are they covered under
Robert

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 23:20

Tracey
I know he was around 28/29 when he was killed
Robert

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 23:20

The first one is for the 8761 gentleman...

The death record tells us nothing more than we already knew, except we now have an age....

Tracey

EDIT

Going on the age data you state i suppose we can confirm the 8761 guy is yours...

Robert

Robert Report 19 Jun 2008 23:24

Yes Tracey,
I would agree, I am really a lot further forward in the past hour than I have been for the last 6 months (in a dead end so to speak), so thank you for the information its greatly appreciated
Robert

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 19 Jun 2008 23:26

There are 23 Robert Smith's born in the Glasgow area in 1884/5

Tracey