1851: Hmmm, which one? Hannah Greenwood William, Ann abt 1850 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter Butterworth, Lancashire
Hannah Greenwood Sarah abt 1850 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter Castleton, Lancashire
This one seems to be the right area. 1851 England Census Name: Hannah Greenwood Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Oldham Road
Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Without ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 107 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Greenwood 25 - head, married; Housekeeper Sarah Greenwood 5 Alice Greenwood 4 Hannah Greenwood 1 All born Rochdale
However this one's parents were born in Holmfirth, 1851 England Census Name: Hannah Greenwood Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Butterworth Ecclesiastical parish: Milnrow County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Crossgates
Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Butterworth Freehold ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Greenwood 37 - Flannel Weaver Ann Greenwood 35 James Greenwood 15 John Greenwood 14 Joseph Greenwood 12 Abraham Greenwood 9 Elizabeth Greenwood 4 Hannah Greenwood 1
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Ozzi Hannah is always stated as born 1850 Rochdale isnt she 27. HANNAH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 21 APR 1850 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England I just think its her ;-)) parents James & Sarah But then ?
Then also thinking Sarah was a nee Brierley or Shaw
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Does this sound silly - the Hannah with sister Alice sounds right then having named her daugter after her sister
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Hannahs are often called Ann.
1861 England Census Name: Anne Greenwood Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale St Chad <<<<<<<< County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 44 Molesworth St
Occupation: - woollen piecer
Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Within ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age James Greenwood 38 - millwright Sarah Greenwood 37 Sarah J Greenwood 15 - woollen weaver Alice Greenwood 13 - woollen piecer Anne Greenwood 11 Martha Greenwood 8 - scholar Thanos Greenwood 6 - scholar John Greenwood 3 - scholar James Greenwood 1 Mo
All born Rochdale.
Not at home in 1871. 1871 England Census Name: Alice Greenwood Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street address: 44 Molesworth St
Occupation:
Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Nearer ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 79 Household Members: Name Age James Greenwood 49 - millwright Sarah Greenwood 46 Sarah Jane Greenwood 25 Alice Greenwood 23 Martha Greenwood 18 Thomas Greenwood 16 John Greenwood 13 George Greenwood 6
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Here's missing James in 1851.
1851 England Census Name: James Greenwood Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rickergate County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: Brunton Place
Occupation: millwright (journeyman)
Condition as to marriage: married
Registration district: Carlisle Sub registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 5c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153 Household Members: Name Age Isabella Fisher 28 Joseph Fisher 55 Mary Fisher 53 Mary Fisher 8 Mary J Fisher 7 James Greenwood 28
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Well I cannot believe the luck on this thread - how good is that - mine tend to run into them brick things - wonder where she's popped of too in '71 - grandmas with a bit of luck - but I doubt ;-))
Thanks loads Ozzi So appreiated Deb x
P. s I cant wait to tell my nan
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Births Dec 1849 GREENWOOD Hannah Rochdale 21 643
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1850 Greenwood Hannah Rochdale 21 725
Births Jun 1845 GREENWOOD Sarah Jane Rochdale 21 955
Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Buckley Lucy Rochdale 21 443 Buckley William Rochdale 21 443 CHADWICK Sally Rochdale 21 443 DUCKWORTH John Rochdale 21 443 >>>>GREENWOOD James Rochdale 21 443 HANSON Edward Rochdale 21 443 Howarth Betty Rochdale 21 443 >>>>Travis Sarah Rochdale 21 443
or Marriages Dec 1846 Banks Agnes Rochdale 21 555 >>>>Blomley Sarah Rochdale 21 555 Bowcock Mary Rochdale 21 555 Briggs Alice Rochdale 21 555 >>>>Greenwood James Rochdale 21 555 Harrison James Rochdale 21 555 Law Thomas Rochdale 21 555 Ogden William Rochdale 21 555 WRIGLEY Samuel Rochdale 21 555
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1841 England Census Name: Sarah Travis Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Regent St
Occupation: Cotton dresser Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Wardleworth Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Abraham Travis 60 - ag lab Ann Travis 60 Mary Travis 25 - Linen cleaner Hannah Travis 20 Esther Travis 18 - Cotton dresser Sarah Travis 15 - Cotton dresser John Travis 14 or
1841 England Census Name: Sarah Travis Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Gaucholme or Gauxholme
Occupation: Registration district: Todmorden Sub registration district: Todmorden Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sarah Travis 55 - grocer William Travis 35 - spinner of cotton James Travis 30 - spinner Sarah Travis 20
Next household is this family. Perhaps relatives of Hannah's John. Name: Israel Greenwood Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Gaucholme or Gauxholme
Occupation: labourer Registration district: Todmorden Sub registration district: Todmorden Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Israel Greenwood 60 Bee Greenwood 40 Mary Greenwood 35 - spinner of cotton Thos Greenwood 25 - labourer Mary Greenwood 30 John Greenwood 12- spinner of cotton
No relationships in 1841. I've orderd them as on the census so I wonder if John is Mary's son, Israel's grandson. This John is too young but Hannah's John could be a relative.
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I would say it is the first Sarah - it's the names - the commom link to others , like Hannah
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