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Hi its a bit of a long one so will try and summarise!

My name is Lisa, and im new to all this, ive tried for 3 mths but not much luck so wondering if anyone could help, or at least point me in some places to look? i would be very grateful!

My Dad was dropped at a hospital aged 3 days old, in 1947. With a note from his birth Mother Joan Welborn, who lived at 33 Bolsover Rd in Hucknall, Notts, i have her birth certificate now,- date of birth- 16 Feb 1921 and also her marriage certificate, when she married 2 yrs after giving birth to my dad. (married 23rd March 1949) -district Basford, Notts

The strange thing is, the guy she married was Gordon Harry Kausman (who was 39 at the time) and the name she left my Dad with on the note said Michael 'Gordon' Welborn...so im thinking maybe she was having an affair and he was named after him?

Gordon Kausman at the time of my dads birth was previously married to a Margaret Martin (maiden name) so its a possibility. And they had a child called Sheila i think??

Im now trying to establish the whereabouts of any siblings/half siblings to my Dad.

The Kausman trail has gone cold, and cant seem to find a death for either of them...are all deaths registered??

My poor Dad has tried so many times in the last 60 yrs, and has given up hope of ever finding out who his family was. So i thought id have one last bash....

would be really pleased if anyone had any bright ideas??


thanks in advance...

Lisa

I'm having a look for children of the marriage now. I'm upto 1954 and have found nothing yet :(


Edit: Found no children upto 1956, going to look for the original marriage of Gordon and any children...

Tracey

Harry G Kausman married Miss Martin 1Q 1939, Surrey N E, 2a 146.

Note the subtle change of name?

Tracey

There's a divorce in 1937 on the National Archives site for a Harry Kausman - wifes name was Phyllis. It's an unusual name - could this be him, previously married???

Well is seems he states he was 39 in 1949 which makes his DoB 1910. It's possible she was his first wife?

I have found a marriage for him for 1939, enough time to get over a 1937 divorce and meet someone new?

Hmm

Tracey

Sheila M Kausman, mmn Martin, Staines, 3a 67, 3Q 1940.

EDIT:

Can only find Sheila.... going to find a marriage to fit the divorce Ann just mentioned...

Tracey

Just seen the same problem on another board. Lisa can you just post on one board, as people may be duplicating work already done by someone else.

Oh Great....

Ann can you post the link, i really cannot be bothered to go look.

Lisa, you really ought to have mentioned this...

I have found Harry's other marriage mentioned by Ann...I assume this may alreayd have been found?

Harry Kausman, married Phyllis White, Paddington, 1a 230, 4Q 1932.

Well spotted Ann !!!

Tracey

Hi Tracey,

Its at the top of trying to find titled "Please help"

Christine

Oh believe me i have replied !!!!

Lisa, we all want to help but it makes it easier for us if you only post to one board, that way there is no duplicate work been done.
Just a little bit of advice for someone who is new and to let you know that we do want to help you and your dad.
Angela

Ok firstly thanks a lot for the help..had no idea i would get such a great response,

secondly i have never used these chat boards before and am sorry if i have upset anyone, i wasn't sure how they worked, just had the idea to post on the first one then saw a board suggested to me that was more suitable, so thought i would post there!
Didn't realise it would cause any probs, i understand now, sorry and thankyou!

Angela, i am really truly grateful...my head hurts from trying to figure this out!!! and some fresh input is very welcome!

Shall i delete any threads?

I did notice the name change from GH to HG was this common in the old days? how do i know its him?

Crikey a 3rd wedding! what a guy!!! the plot thickens... im gonna be on here till silly o' clock again i can feel it!!

Am awating Sheilas Birth Certificate, and his marriage to Margaret...due any day now...


I did wonder wether that Hyman Harry Kausman, London yob. 1910 may have been him...as he changed his name once, why not before!! ???

Sorry again, for doing all this wrong..

and big thankyou to you all

L
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Lisa, the only way you'll know is to order the additional marriage cert and then go from there.... i've not looked for children of that marriage as i was going to walk away...

But you are a newbie and i love finding new data... as this is the thread with the most data you might do as well to delete the other thread and paste anything here other people have found for you.... remembering to credit them also..

Tracey

Lisa,

It happens, you're not the only one. It's largely because GR doesn't give any advice on how to use the boards effectively .................. don't worry about it, just remember for the future lol!! (I'm joking, just in case you didn't pick up on that!!!).

If you do do it in the future ........ it helps if you add a note saying "this also posted on xxxxx board", but in fact we helpers all go onto all the other boards so you aren't really finding "different" helpers on different boards.


regarding name changes.

It does happen quite often ........... you'll find ancestors who switch the order around (as yours did), who use one name then the other in varying records or on censuses, who decide to become Henry instead of Harry, etc etc


I swear they did it to make our life more interesting!!


You do develop a "feel" that this is my guy, even though the name is wrong. The problem then is proving it!!



welcome to one of the most frustrating, enjoyable hobbies around!!



sylvia

I wholely agree...

I need a mood meter.....

I'm starting from 1934 trying to find any children of the first marriage!


Tracey
(Currently frustrated) LOL

Tracey

I've given up on most of mine for the time being!!


and husband's ones are being really frustrating


sylvia

To e fair i had given up on mine...til i ordered by Grandfather Birt cert from the Scottish Records office.... in a heartbeat i had gone from 1921 Scotland to 1780 Ireland.... and stopped dead... no birth location, just a Country.... Grrrr

So onwards and upwards on someone elses brick wall....

Tracey (thinking of changing my name to bob the builder!!)

Thanks Sylvia and Tracey, i will go and delete them now! Had no idea how this worked, now it all makes sense...thanks for the advice!

I must be doing something wrong, i tried to look up the wedding in 1932, but it shows no results..

i used the refined search, is that the correct one?

I just typed in his name, marriage date and spouses name..but not there??

Good job you guys are experts!

Just to show you how bad i am at this, when i tried to locate Joe White Welborn (joans father) i thought he had changed his name as i found a Joe While Welbourn same birth year, same district...etc..so on sunday dragged the whole family to find this house on a large estate called Newstead Priory..took photos, got quite emotional and then realised my mistake 2 days later!

what a wally!

Lisa

Your using FreeBMD??

These record have not been transcribed yet, i am trawling thru the actual untranscribed BMD on Find My Past, page by page manually searching for your Grandfather's children.... your Aunts and Uncles?


Tracey