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Myra, I am glad to have helped. I remember the help people here gave me when I first started here and they found things for me that I had looked for and not found.
Angela

Angela,
Yes I did the same and came up empty. It's a mystery. Thanks for trying though. it's much appreciated, and that goes to all of you who have helped me today.
Myra

Myra, I checked freebmd between 1861 and 1871 for 4 different spellings of his name, but found nothing.
Angela

Claire,

Oh right, thats interesting. That makes much more sense on my other searches.
Myra

I'm back!

I saw the query over the age on the 1841, well it was never meant to be accurate. Quote

"The ages of people over 15 years old were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years. Therefore, someone who was actually 24 years would have their age listed as 20, and someone who was actually 27 years old would have their age listed as 25."

If he died, it had to have been between 1861 and 1871.
Myra

The way I have figured it out is that Robert either died or left the marriage, and Rosie was left with the 2 youngest children and ended up in the workhouse.
Myra

I have looked for him on both find my past and ancestry and cannot see him. I also looked on freebmd to see if I could see his death and nothing. He is a puzzel.
Angela

Thinking about it (give me time) he must be about 70 years old. Surely not still stone quarrying!

Angela - Yes, I did, but couldn't find him.Please go ahead and try. I think he must be there somewhere.

Christina did you look for Robert in that census? If not I will have a go at it.
Angela

Myra and that can happen too. If you see the two Vine postings I have put up for you which are clearly the same family the Walter is 37 in 1861 and 44 in 1871. People lied about their ages all the time in the census.
Angela

I don't think the 2 Roberts on the 1861 & 1841 census are the same person as on the 1861 his dob is 1799 and on the 1841 census his dob is 1806.
What do you think.
Myra

Myra - I'm typing out the details of the 1871 census, so you can see that it matches quite well with the 1861.

1871 census

Rosanna Haysome - wife - mar - 60 - wife of stone quarrier - Langton, Dorset
Thomas Haysome - son - 17 - Swanage, Dorset
Charles Haysome - son - 14 - scholar - Gosport, Hants.

So it looks like father, Robert is still alive

And possibly Mary Ann in 1861



1861 census - household transcription
Person: VINE, Walter
Address: 17, Ferry Road, Rye




Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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VINE, Walter Head Married M 37 ...
Sussex VIEW
VINE, Matilda Wife Married F 32
Peasmarsh
Sussex VIEW
VINE, Matilda Emily Daughter Unmarried F 11 Scholar
Rye
Sussex VIEW
VINE, Agnes Grace Daughter Unmarried F 7 Scholar
Rye
Sussex VIEW
VINE, Ellin Flora Daughter Unmarried F 2
Rye
Sussex VIEW
VINE, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 1
Rye
Sussex VIEW
SAUNTER, Charles Lodger Unmarried M 32 Agricultural Labourer
Northiam
Sussex VIEW
FORSDIKE, Thomas Lodger Married M 36 Carpenter
...
Suffolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
557 Folio:
113 Page:
25

Registration District:
Rye Sub District:
1 Rye EnumerationDistrict:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Rye Municipal Borough:
Rye Address:
17, Ferry Road, Rye County:
Sussex

Angela

We are glad to help Myra and have all been new on here and just finding our way so we know what is like.
Anglea

Claire & Angela,
Thanks for the advice, I'll bare that in mind.
Myra

Me to Claire and if they match I tend to think that the wrong place was written in the census. I have been down many a blind alley trusting birth places on the census.
Angela

I try to look at the age of the children, the occupations & the wife's details as well as the place of birth

Myra, one of the things I have learned from doing all the research I have is that the information as to birth place on the census is very dubious. I have records which I know are my g grandfather which have him born in at least 3 places.
Angela