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help i have a marriage,but can't make out!

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Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 19:54

Hi, i sent away for a cert, when appied for it put in persons names i had, but it came back with a completly diffrent name on it.
the names i put down were john brobyn,and emma rebeca brobyns marriage.
i received it over the week end and i got cert's it said john brobyn and mary ann brobyn. do you think she could of been using a diffrent name or what. i now am confussed. linda

Researching:
AUSTIN, Brobyn,

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 19:59

What date & district is the cert?

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 20:05

hi, the date is seventeeth of september 1872 district is gloucester

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AUSTIN, Brobyn,

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:05

Is this your family?

1901 England Census
about John T Brobyn
Name: John T Brobyn
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma B
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Littledean
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Dean St Ethelbert
Town: Littledean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Sub registration district: East Dean
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
John T Brobyn 49
Emma B Brobyn 48
William H Brobyn 21
Leonard Brobyn 15
Jessie M Brobyn 13
Lillian R Brobyn 11
Herbert L S Brobyn 8
Francis A Brobyn 4


°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:06

I suspect that you have this cert

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John Brobyn
Name: John Brobyn
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 442

but may need this one

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John Thomas Brobyn
Name: John Thomas Brobyn
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 367

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:08

The 1874 marriage shows no bride but I think she may be Emma Rebecca Jones

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 20:09

yes that is the family but the mother was called emma rebecca maiden name jones

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AUSTIN, Brobyn,

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:11

Sorry Linda but I'm sure you have the wrong marriage cert

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:16

Linda how old is John on the cert & what's his occupation?
I'm wondering if you John married twice

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:18

1901 Census ... shows that John did have the initial T ......... so that seems to confirm that it si the 1874 marriage that is the right one.


Name: John T Brobyn
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma B <<<<<<<< it is Emma R on the image
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Littledean
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Dean St Ethelbert
Town: Littledean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Sub registration district: East Dean
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
John T Brobyn 49
Emma B Brobyn 48
William H Brobyn 21
Leonard Brobyn 15
Jessie M Brobyn 13
Lillian R Brobyn 11
Herbert L S Brobyn 8
Francis A Brobyn 4


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what age does it give for John on the certificate that you have?? I do agree with Claire that you have bought the wrong one.



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:19

I was also wondering if it was John Brobyn born ca 1815 who was married in 1872


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 5 May 2008 20:24

Emma Rebecca Jones married Mar. Q 1874, Westbury S. (6a 368) No one else on that page.

John Thomas Brobyn married Mar. Q 1874, Westbury S. (6a 367) No on else on that page.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 20:24

john on the marriage cert is age 19 years so is the wife, sorry can't make out his ocupation.

Researching:
AUSTIN, Brobyn,

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:25

Emma's marriage registration . somehow has got different page number

Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)

JONES Emma Rebecca Westbury S 6a 368



Just looked at the image, and this page number is correct for Emma ....... but p. 367 is correct on the image for John!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:31

I looked for deaths of a Brobyn 1872 to 1875, wondering if Mary Ann had died and John had married twice.

No Mary Ann Brobyn death BUT there was this one


Deaths Dec 1874 (>99%)

BROBYN John 32 Westbury S 6a 167




Could this be the answer????? There was another John Brobyn who married Mary Ann?



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:34

The marriage in 1872 was presumably John Brobyn and Mary Ann Penn

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)

Brobyn John Westbury S. 6a 442
Dobbs Eliza Westbury S. 6a 442
Ludlow Alvin Westbury S. 6a 442
Penn Mary Ann Westbury S. 6a 442



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:36

1871 England Census
about Mary A Penn
Name: Mary A Penn
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: East Dean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Penn 13
Jane Penn 36
Jane Penn 5
John Penn 2
Mary A Penn 18
Thomas Penn 44
Thomas Penn 15
William Penn 6


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:40

Two John Brobyn/Brobin on the 1881 Census


View Record
John Brobin Mary abt 1853 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire Coal Miner


John Brobyn Emma abt 1852 Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean, Gloucestershire Iron Miner



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:42

1881 Census

John and Emma

Name: John Brobyn
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Little Dean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: Broad Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Iron Miner

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Emma Brobyn 28
Frederick Brobyn 4
Jane Brobyn 6
John Brobyn 29
William Brobyn 1


vs. John and Mary

Name: John Brobin
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Littledean, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Westbury On Severn - East Dean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: Littledean Hill
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Albert Brobin 2
George Brobin 6
John Brobin 28
Mary Brobin 28
Tom Brobin 8
William Brobin 5



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:43

Definitely two different families!


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

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