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I have put messages out before on this family and would like to thank those that helped but I was on the wrong track.I have been looking for the birth of Charles Frederick Wright in 1879 in Southwark, Surrey. Finally got the correct cert and the father is also Charles Frederick and the mother is Emma. Problem is I cannot find anything on the family apart from 1881 census of Charles senior which looks like them. Got the marriage of Charles and Emma (Thornton) from the i.g.i. Can anyone please find any more than I have? It is such a common name that this family have taken me ages to find. Lynn

1891.
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WRIGHT, Chas Head Married M 40 Labourer
Bury
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Emma Wife Married F 40
London
WRIGHT, Wm Son M 15 Telegraph Messenger
Southwark
London
WRIGHT, Chas Son M 11 Scholar
Southwark
London
WRIGHT, Emma S Daughter F 9 Scholar
Southwark
London

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
403 Folio:
14 Page:
26

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Kennington Second EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marks

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
60, Bolton Street, Lambeth County:
London, Middlesex

Yes Sue this is the same family I have for 1881...thanks. If you can find anything on Charles senior's family please let me know. Kind regards, Lynn.

Was looking for Charles snr in Bury but looks as if that was a red herring. Though 1881 & 1891 record Bury, Suffolk.

1901 England Census
Name: Charles Wright
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackfriars, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Agnes
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 159 Lorrimore Rd

Occupation: ________(??) labourer

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter, Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 398
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Wright 47
Emma Wright 47
William Wright 25 - Seed Warehouse Carter
Charles Wright 21 - Bricklayer's labourer
Emma Wright 19 - Mantle machinist
Bertie Wright 4

This is possibly Charles senior in 1861.


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WRIGHT, Joseph Head Married M 48 Labourer
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Susannah Wife Married F 43 Needlewoman
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter F 15
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Mary A Daughter F 12 Scholar
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Charles Son M 9 Scholar
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Ellen Daughter F 5 Scholar
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
WRIGHT, Walter Son M 3
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
1140 Folio:
135 Page:
21

Registration District:
Bury St Edmunds Sub District:
1 Bury-St Edmunds EnumerationDistrict:
G 6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Ely

Civil Parish:
St Marys Municipal Borough:
Bury St Edmunds Address:
27, Church Walks, St Marys, Bury St Edmunds County:
Suffolk

But there's this one as well.

1871 England Census
Name: Charles Wright
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: St James
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Sub-registration district: Bury St Edmunds
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Rose Leech 50
Arthur Poole 16
Charles Wright 19
Susan Wright 64


Which looks quite likely.

1861 England Census
Name: Charles Wright
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Ely
Town: Bury St Edmunds
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address: Butts

Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Sub-registration district: Bury St Edmunds
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Wright 51 - widow; shoebinder; Bury St Edmunds
Frederick Wright 15 - scholar; Bury St Edmunds
Charles Wright 8

Ladies, am confused! Where do you think Charles senior was born? On that 1901 census Charles junior was born in Blackfriars too when I have him as born in Christchurch, St. Saviour from his cert.

Well in both 1881 & 1891 he has Bury, Suffolk. It's only 1901 that he's born London. So I'd go for Suffolk.

Getting his marriage cert for father's name would be good.

Yes, that 1901 seems to be wrong on a couple of things.Will order the marriage cert. Thanks all for your help. Lynn.

I'm going to go on a bit of a tangent here just to see if it leads us anywhere.

1891 England Census
Name: Frederick Wright
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amelia Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 168 Brockley Rd

Occupation: coachman

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Wright 45
Amelia Mary Wright 52 - Ipswich, Suffolk
Susan Goodwin 54 - sister-in-law; widow; needlewoman; Thorpe, Essex

1901 England Census
Name: Frederick Wright
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amelia
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Hatcham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 75 Foxberry Rd

Occupation: general labourer

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Wright 54
Amelia Wright 62 - Ipswich, Suffolk

I don't think 1901 is the wrong couple. I think it's just an error on somebody's part.

1881 England Census
Name: Susan Goodair
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William H.
Gender: Female
Where born: Thorpe, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 19 Foxberry Road
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 67
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H. Goodair 73 - sawyer & contractor; Southwark, Surrey
Susan Goodair 44
William G. Goodair 21 - assistant; Harwich, Essex
S.K. Goodair 15 - Southwark
Ada M. Britton 10 - niece; Ipswich Suffolk

Frederick's wife & sister-in-law
1851:
Gornak Baker Susan abt 1803 Hutton, Suffolk, England Head Harwich St Nicholas, Essex - hairdresser
Susan Baker Gornak abt 1810 Alton, Hampshire, England Wife Harwich St Nicholas, Essex
...>>>Susan Baker Gornak, Susan abt 1837 Thorpe, Essex, England Daughter Harwich St Nicholas, Essex
...>>>Amelia Baker Gornak, Susan abt 1838 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Harwich St Nicholas, Essex
Fanny Baker Gornak, Susan abt 1840 Briston, Surrey, England Daughter Harwich St Nicholas, Essex


Marriages Mar 1858
BAKER Susan Ipswich 4a 701
GOODAIR William Henry Ipswich 4a 701
Scarlett Caroline Ipswich 4a 701
Tarrant William Ipswich 4a 701


1841 England Census
Name: Gosnall Baker
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: St Matthew
Hundred: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address: New Cut, London Road

Occupation: hairdresser

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthew
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gosnall Baker 35
Susan Baker 30
Garnell Baker 7
Susan Baker 5
Amitia Baker 3
Fanny Baker 1

Marriages Sep 1880
...>>>Baker Amelia Hackney 1b 797
BELL William Hackney 1b 797
Hansmann Adelaide Hackney 1b 797
Hausmann Adelaide Hackney 1b 797
...>>>Wright Frederick Hackney 1b 797



Births Sep 1838
BAKER Mary Amelia Ipswich 12 312

Sorry I'm not with you...are you saying that Frederick Wright is really Charles? Brother maybe, or twin? Lynn

No, in 1861 Frederick is a brother. I hoped he might lead us to Charles, but no luck.

Ozi.

Thanks for looking Ozibird. Kind regards, Lynn

I am looking for parents of CHARLES JOSEPH WRIGHT born 1917 Southwark .. I believe his mother may have been SMITH

Cathy

The MMN will be on the birth record on freebmd

You could then look for marriages, but, as the names are common, there may be more than one potential union. Certainty can be assured by buying a copy of the birth cert

Not sure why you’ve added to this 13-year-old thread, rather than starting one of you own :-S