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♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 2 Mar 2008 15:40

Margaret
Thanks for that, very useful sites.
Regards
Julia

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Mar 2008 20:54



Julia.
Look at old occupations and several sites come up

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 1 Mar 2008 16:35

Hi Selena

Thanks for that, I think that is probably correct. Liverpool was very industrious at that time, so i guess there was a call for a large number of horse teams.
What website are you looking at, can I ask.

Regards
Julia

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 1 Mar 2008 16:19

I was serious about him owning a team of horses - got this from a website on old professions

TEAMER / TEAMER MAN / TEAMSTER - person in charge of a team of horses

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 1 Mar 2008 13:43

Christina

Thats fantastic!!!!!!!!!

Seems like that is the one, I guess on Ada's marriage certificate, for the sake of propierty perhaps, she said her father was Abraham J-B.

Will look into all of that now.

Thank you so much

Julia x

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Mar 2008 03:34

Christina.

Thats a great bit of detective work. I think you are right about Ada's mother Charlotte.

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 1 Mar 2008 00:41

Possible registration.

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
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Johnson Ada W. Derby 8b 512




Marriage for Charlotte to John Barlow...

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Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
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BARLOW John Liverpool 8b 20
Buchanan Charlotte Johnson Liverpool 8b 20


Can't find a marriage for Charlotte to Abraham Buchanan. Do you think he might be the one in the 1871 census entry that Alex found?
Just wondering about 'Team Owner' and 'Steam Tug Owner'?

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 1 Mar 2008 00:22

Looks like the Ada Johnson that Selena found the christening for could be the one..........

Bear with me....

Charlotte is listed as 'widow'

1881 England Census
about Ada Johnson
Name: Ada Johnson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Charlotte Elizth.
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 80 Smithdown Lane
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Johnson 6
Charlotte Elizth. Johnson 27 dressmaker
James Johnson 3


Charlotte still shown as 'widow' but with three additional children!!!

1891 England Census
about Ada Johnson
Name: Ada Johnson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Johnson 16
Cecil Johnson 5
Elizabeth Johnson 41 dressmaker
Henry Johnson 8
James Johnson 14
Nellie Johnson 3
John Wilson 50 boarder


Cecil and Nellie's surname mysteriously changed to Buchanan???

1901 England Census
about Cecil I Buchanan
Name: Cecil I Buchanan
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Barlow 51 wife
John Barlow 53 head labourer/shipyard worker
Cecil I Buchanan 15 stepson
Nellie I Buchanan 13 stepdaughter
Mabel Bure 7 visitor
John Randalls 42 boarder

Original image shows Cecil J & Nellie J.


♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 29 Feb 2008 21:42

Thanks Sylvia
I have tried googling every permutation of his name that I can think of!!

I remember being told a while back about a website that listed professions etc in the 19th century, but cannot remember what it was (tried googling that too!!)

Will keep googling

Regards
Julia x

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Feb 2008 21:02

Have you tried googling Abraham's name??

If he was a team owner, it does indeed imply Everton or Liverpool .... and his name may be out there.


sylvia

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 29 Feb 2008 20:12

is this a possible, nothing for Buchanan

Ada Johnson

Christening: 14 DEC 1874 St Mary'S, Edge Hill, Lancashire, England


Father: Abraham Thomas Johnson
Mother: Charlotte Elizabeth

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 29 Feb 2008 20:08

perhaps he owned a team of horses, pulling a carriage or something similar.

or a football team (only joking)

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 29 Feb 2008 20:05

Hi Alex
Had a crisis, only just got back to this!!!!!

Abraham on the marriage cert was listed as "Team Owner", any ideas???

Her address at the time of marriage was 14 Apollo Street, Everton.

Any thoughts, gratefully accepted.

Julia x


FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 27 Feb 2008 14:45

Let me know what you find - sadly I cant seem to see Ada with the family at all but you never know!

Also might be worth checking out who the witnesses were too - that might yield some more clues!

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 27 Feb 2008 13:13

Thanks for all that Alex.
Have wondered before if Phoebe was an older sister of Ada's.
Will check marriage cert tonight and see what it says.
Thanks again
regards
Julia

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 27 Feb 2008 13:03

So no idea whether its any help to you - but perhaps once you get home tonight and check his occupation it can at least rule him out if nothing else!

x

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 27 Feb 2008 13:03


1871 England Census
about Abraham Buchannon
Name: Abraham Buchannon
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 32 Gt. Craven St.


Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members:
Name Age

Abraham Buchannon 38 Steam Tug Manager b. Liverpool
Alice Buchannon 32 b. Liverpool
Pheobe Buchannon 12 Scholar b. Liverpool
Abraham Buchannon 9 months b. Liverpool


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3788; Folio: 99; Page: 32; GSU roll: 841896.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 27 Feb 2008 12:58


1881 England Census
about Abraham Buchanan
Name: Abraham Buchanan
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 22 Nursery Street
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Alice Buchanan 43 (married) Lodger Dressmaker b. Liverpool
Abraham Buchanan 10 Scholar b. Liverpool

John Hookeray 49 (wid) (Head) Dock Labourer b. Liverpool
Fanny Jepson 47 (wid) Lodger b.Liverpool
Dora McGrath 28 (married) Lodger Headmistress (husband at sea) b, Manchester
Mgt. McGrath 3 b. Liverpool
My.J. McGrath 8 Scholar b. Liverpool
Chas. Parkins 26 Lodger Dock Labourer b. Liverpool
Elizh. Parkins 22 b. Bombay
Wm. Spencer 50 Lodger Carter b. Liverpool


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3595; Folio: 80; Page: 37; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341861.

Will look for them in 1871

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 27 Feb 2008 12:54


1861 England Census
about Abraham Buchanan
Name: Abraham Buchanan
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 35 Hatton Gardens

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 8g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age

Abraham Buchanan 29 Warehouseman b. Liverpool
Alice Buchanan 32 b. Liverpool
Phoeba (Phoebe) Buchanan 3 b. Liverpool


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2667; Folio: 44; Page: 12; GSU roll: 543009.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 27 Feb 2008 12:52


1851 England Census
about Abraham Buchanan
Name: Abraham Buchanan
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Vauxhall
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1q
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 182
Household Members:
Name Age

Henry Read 9 Mo
Henry Read 3
Henry Read 55


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2179; Folio: 537; Page: 44; GSU roll: 87177-87178.

The Read family are wrong - no idea why they are on that record!

It should be:

44 Prussia St

Robert Buchanan 49 (wid) Cordwainer b. Lathom
Henry Buchanan 20 Printer b. Liverpool
Abraham Buchanan 17 Optician b. Liverpool