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Edward H Agar, born c1857.

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KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 8 Feb 2008 18:10

Looks possible Ann Agar b 1832 on 1851 married Henry Pretty

Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Agar Ann Leicester 7a 438
Pretty Henry Leicester 7a 438

1861 census.
Name: Ann Pretty
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Pretty 30
Henry Pretty 30
Sarah A Pretty 4 Mo
Tom H Pretty 2

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2286; Folio: 13; Page: 20

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 8 Feb 2008 18:13

Emma married Richard Barratt
Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%)
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AGAR Emma Sarah Leicester 7a 193
BARRATT Richard Leicester 7a 193

1861 census.
Name: Emma Barratt
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard
Gender: Female
Where born: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Barratt 22
Richard Barratt 29

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2286; Folio: 10; Page: 13

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 8 Feb 2008 18:18

Looks like Eliza married William Minor, but age does not tie in with 1861/71 census possible she "lost" a few years for the sake of the marriage.
Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
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Agar Eliza Leicester 7a 320
Minor William Leicester 7a 320


Name: Eliza Minor
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: 118 Dorset St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housewife

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 80
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Minor 33
Harry Minor
William Minor 32
William Minor 6

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3167; Folio: 105; Page: 16

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 8 Feb 2008 18:23

After all this, we are still no nearer to finding out how Emma is the neice of Edward.

Got to leave this now, its time for bed here.

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 9 Feb 2008 04:56

From the IGI extracted record.

THOMAS AGAR
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH LUMLEY Family
Marriage: 22 DEC 1830 Belgrave, Leicester, England

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 9 Feb 2008 05:02

Three of the childrens births and christenings on this batch on IGI, Batch Number: C034371.

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 10 Feb 2008 20:08

Gillian????? Is this of any use to you?

Gillian

Gillian Report 11 Feb 2008 10:06

Thanks Keith

Have been away, so only just picked up your replies on my thread.

Thank you so much for all your hard work.

I originally started out looking to fnd the relatationship of Emma Kilby to the Agars.

I think we have 'come close' to finding it as :
1971 you found a Mary Orton and I know that the Ortons married into the Kilbys.

And in 1876 you found this marriage:
Agar Edward Henry Leicester 7a 584
Orton Mary Jane Leicester 7a 584
So there is definately a connection - but not sure exactly what it is yet.

The census 1881 that you found - this family are in my tree, so we are on the right track..
Arthur C. Kilby
Elizabeth A. Kilby 23
Hetty K. Kilby 1
John I. Kilby 23 Professor of Music, born Leicestershire


Not sure where to go next as I still havent fround the eaxct connection between Emma Kilby & the Agars

Thank you so much for your help ...really do appreciate it.
Kind regards
Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 12 Feb 2008 15:45

Hi Keith

Emma Kilbys parents were:
John Kilby & Elizabeth Orton and in 1881 they lived at 19 Shenton St, Leicester

And in 1876 you found this marriage:
Agar Edward Henry Leicester 7a 584
Orton Mary Jane Leicester 7a 584

What I dont yet know is, who Mary Jane Orton is in relation to Elizabeth Orton ????

Any thoughts??
Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 14 Feb 2008 11:20

Hi Keith

Have just found out that in 1871 - the Agars
( Agar /Orton ) also lived in Shenton Street- No 27!

I would like to think that Elizabeth nee Orton (No 19)
and Mary nee Orton (No27) were sisters
(or cousins) - but as yet still cant find the actual connection - need to find details of Marys birth, to see who her parents were?????

Regards
Gill