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Any info would be greatly appeciated. I think he was born around 1885. he married Amy Blanche Downing in Woolwich in 1916. They moved to Bristol at some stage, where my grand mother died. Henry died in Swindon. Does any one know of him please.

Are you trying to trace his ancestors or living relatives?

Do you have his marriage cert info?

Hi there. Thanks for getting back to me
It is him, and his ancestors that i am interested in. Although i lived with him for many years it never occured to me to ask questions. Now that my mother and father and both grand parents are all dead i have no one to ask, and i now want to know about there past .
I tried to order marriage certificate but was unable to do so because i dont have any dates. Except that it was 1916.
As far as i can work out Henry died about 1978, definatly in Swindon, Wilts.
He was born in London somewhere not sure if it was Woolwich.
I now live in australia and not sure how to find these things out.
Joan

You can purchase the certificate via the internet. Cost is 7 pounds


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Amy B Downing
Name: Amy B Downing
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Smith (Henry C)
District: Woolwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 2538

Go to www.gro.gov.uk When it asks for the reference number, use the Volume and Page above.

Hi Lewella
Thanks for that i will get onto it right away.

A possible death:

Henry Charles Smith
Registered 3rd quarter 1978
District: Swindon
Date of Birth: 3 March 1885
Volume 23
Page 2006

A possible:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Charles Smith
Name: Henry Charles Smith
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 41

The first step is that marriage certificate, as it will give you his father's details.

This one is a possible, but it's only a guess


1891 England Census
about Henry C Smith
Name: Henry C Smith
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry S
Mother's Name: Ellen M
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil Parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Bowes
Town: Bowes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry S Smith 33 (born Marylebone. Occupation: Commercial Clerk)
Ellen M Smith 32
Nellie S Smith 8
Henry C Smith 6

Hi Lewella
Have ordered the marriage certificate already. Can't believe it onlt cost 7pounds. The site i was looking at was going to cost 23pounds for the same service, and they wanted exact date. So thank you once again. I just have to be patient now and wait for the certificate to arrive. I'm sure the death notice is right because he was living with my mum and dad at the time. I have no idea about siblings so the census info will give me something to work on. Thank you so much
Joan

Get back to me once you have the marriage certificate and we'll see if we can trace the right family for you :-)

That will be fantastic. May take a couple of weeks for certificate to arrive, But i will definatly be back in touch.
Joan

Hi Lewella.
You were kind enough to help me out, and point me in the right direction a couple of weeks ago, regarding my grand father HENRY CHARLES SMITH. I now have the marriage certificate. He was married on the 10th June 1916, he was 31 years old. The writting isn't very clear, but it looks like his fathers name was HURCLES THOMAS SMITH. So where do i go now please.
Regards Joan

Hopefull the marriage certificate will give addresses for brides and bridegroom and occupations of the groom and the both the father

also make a note of the witnesses (maybe brothers or sisters)

now start looking at the census records working backwards from 1911 (or skip this one) & 1901

I'll have a look at see what I can find as well


ps please put the info here
Hurcles could be Hercules??

this might be his father

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1910 (98%)
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Smith Hercules Thomas 65 Bristol 6a 85

this could be your grandmother

Name: Amy B Downing
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel H
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil Parish: Woolwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist North Woolwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub registration district: Woolwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel H Downing 58
Sarah Downing 46
Amy B Downing 26
Sarah M Downing 21
Henry A Downing 18
Albert C Downing 12
Charles F Downing 10
William A Downing 7
Arthur B Downing 6


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 568; Folio: 102; Page: 4.

Samuel H Downing
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, London, England

Civil Parish: Woolwich
occupation ?? vatten back maker

birth Name: Samuel Henry Downing
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 4
Page: 63

death
Name: Samuel H Downing
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 77
District: Woolwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 933

marriage (to Sarah Middleton??)
Name: Samuel Henry Downing
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901)
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 332

1911 Amy was working in Suffolk

can you clarify dob for Henry as he seems to be 10 years younger than Amy

1901
Name: Hercules T Smith
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selina
Gender: Male
Where born: Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Bristol



Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: St Philip and St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Hercules T Smith 58
Selina Smith 54
Beatrice Smith 21
Henry C Smith 16


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2380; Folio: 75; Page: 16.


Name: Henry C Smith
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Hercules T
Mother's Name: Selina
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

curiosity got the better of me so I think this is henry charles in 1911

JASPER, GRAHAM HEAD MARRIED M 30 CLERK PLYMOUTH DEVON
JASPER, BEATRICE WIFE MARRIED 8 F 30 BRISTOL GLOS
JASPER, GRAHAM SON M 7 BRISTOL GLOS
JASPER, ALMA DAUGHTER F 3 BRISTOL GLOS
SMITH, SELINA MOTHER IN LAW WIDOW F 67 DEVIZES WILTS
SMITH, CHARLES BROTHER IN - LAW SINGLE M 26 MOULDER BRISTOL GLOS

SMITH CHARLES (RG14PN15023 RG78PN906 RD319 SD6 ED26 SN38)
27 REGENT TERRACE NEWTOWN BRISTOL County Gloucestershire
Bristol Subdistrict St Philip and St Jacob
26 Parish

1891

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selina
Gender: Male
Where born: Warkon Bassett, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Smith 49
Selina Smith 46
John Bailey 20
Beatrice Smith 11
Charles Smith 6
Rose Harris 18


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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1982; Folio 40; Page 33; GSU roll: 6097092.

John Bailey is a stepson mother Selina so she must have been married before
Rose Harris is a lodger

NB Henry charles is going by CHARLES and his father has dropped the Hercules!