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David
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28 Dec 2009 19:13 |
hi i have a death cert for my great grandmother eliza searle widow of daniel searle this was in 1876 present at the death was elizabeth chapple also informant she is given as a cousin of the deceased which i beleve to be either elizas or her belated husband so if anyone can assist in tracing elizabeth chapple would be appreciated
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TheLadyInRed
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28 Dec 2009 19:22 |
David, where did the death take place? Need as much info as you've got to be able to find her.
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MargaretM
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28 Dec 2009 19:25 |
Do you know if Elizabeth Chapple was married? If not we don't know if Chapple was her maiden or married name.
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David
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28 Dec 2009 19:27 |
julie thank you for reply registation district axminster sub district colyton county of devon dec 9th 1876 beer devon eliza searle aged 65 widow of daniel searle informant & present at the death elizabeth chapple cousin of the deceased
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David
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28 Dec 2009 19:29 |
margaret good point no i dont know if married or not which does not help much
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TheLadyInRed
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28 Dec 2009 19:34 |
possible in 1871?
Name Elizabeth Chapple Age 41 Estimated Year of Birth 1830 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Honiton Lacemaker Address Clapps Lane District Axminster, Colyton Parish Administrative County Devon Birth Place Beer Birth County Devonshire
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David
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28 Dec 2009 19:36 |
julie that looks promising thank you
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TheLadyInRed
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28 Dec 2009 19:38 |
and 1881?
1881 England Census about Elizth Chapple Name: Elizth Chapple Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Absolom Gender: Female Where born: Beer, Devon, England Civil parish: Seaton and Beer County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: East Side of Beer Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Lacemaker Registration district: Axminster Sub-registration district: Colyton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Absolom Chapple 50 Elizth Chapple 50 Thirza Chapple 14 Silas Chapple 12
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David
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28 Dec 2009 19:39 |
julie i think we are on the right tracks thank you
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chrissiex
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28 Dec 2009 19:54 |
Unfortunately the two women's birth surnames don't provide any clues and in fact we can't even be sure from the marriage registration info what they were, lol.
Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%) >> Chappel Absalom Axminster 5b 19 Oldridge Timothy Thomas Axminster 5b 19 ?? Seaward Elizabeth Axminster 5b 19 ?? Turner Elizabeth Axminster 5b 19
Marriages Dec 1840 (>99%) (??) HOLMES Elizabeth Axminster 10 13 JENKINS Sarah Axminster 10 13 MAJOR James Axminster 10 13 ORLEY William Axminster 10 13 ?? PARTRIDGE Eliza Axminster 10 13 Pierce Harriot Axminster 10 13 POTTER John Axminster 10 13 ?? SEARLE Daniel Axminster 10 13
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TheLadyInRed
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28 Dec 2009 19:57 |
in 1891 Absolom is shown as being a widower: 1891 England Census about Absalam Chapple Name: Absalam Chapple Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Beer, Devon, England Civil parish: Seaton and Beer Ecclesiastical parish: Seaton and Beer Town: Beer County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Axminster Sub-registration district: Colyton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Absalam Chapple 61 Silas Chapple 21 BUT: there is also an Eliza Chapple shown as being a widow, aged 68 who is a lacemaker: 1891 England Census about Eliza Chapple Name: Eliza Chapple Age: 68 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Seaton and Beer, Devon, England Civil parish: Seaton and Beer Ecclesiastical parish: Seaton and Beer Town: Beer County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Axminster Sub-registration district: Colyton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Chapple 68 Elizabeth Bartlett 23 and her next door neighbour is Elizabeth Chapple shown as head of household and married but living alone, also a lacemaker
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David
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28 Dec 2009 19:59 |
thank you
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David
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28 Dec 2009 20:00 |
julie thank you
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chrissiex
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28 Dec 2009 20:08 |
Still trying to find a surname connection here!
If Eliza was Partridge (you need the Daniel Searle marriage certificate, or please tell us if you know Eliza's surname)
ELIZA PARTRIDGE Christening: 08 DEC 1811 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England Parents: Father: JACOB PARTRIDGE Mother: ELIZABETH Source Information: Batch No.: C051991
JACOB PARTRIDGE Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH BOOLS Marriage: 05 SEP 1811 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England Source Information: Batch No.: M051991
I think if you want to discover the family relationship between Eliza and Elizabeth you will need to get their marriage certificates so you know both their surnames for certain.
If Elizabeth Chapple was Elizabeth Seaward, she was christened 1830 in Seaton and Beer and her parents were Robert Seaward and Hannah Batten married Seaton and Beer 1824, it seems.
If she was Elizabeth Turner, she was christened 1829 in Seaton and Beer and her parents were Robert Turner and AHA AHA Frances Partridge married Seaton and Beer 1825.
I think that is the cousinship.
Elizabeth Chapple was Elizabeth Turner 1829 the daughter of Frances Partridge.
Eliza Searle was Eliza Partridge 1811.
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David
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28 Dec 2009 20:14 |
hi eliza partridge & daniel searle are my 2x great grandparents i have thier marr cert her parents my 3 x great grandparents
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David
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28 Dec 2009 20:16 |
thank you traced the cousin relationship now
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chrissiex
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28 Dec 2009 20:17 |
Good, she was Partridge, so I think we can be sure that is the family connection! What exactly it was ... I am still hunting in the IGI.
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David
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28 Dec 2009 20:22 |
thank you
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David
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28 Dec 2009 20:25 |
is frances partridge the sister of my 2x great grandmother eliza i havent got her on my tree
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chrissiex
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28 Dec 2009 20:27 |
I think this would be Frances Partridge mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple
FRANCES PARTRIDGE Christening: 15 JAN 1809 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England Parents: Father: MALACHI PARTRIDGE Mother: REBECCA (Rebecca Bools married in 1806) Source Information: Batch No.: C051991
Children of Malachi Partridge and Susannah
Partridge, British Isles Father: Malachi , Mother: Susannah Batch Number: C051991
1. FANNY PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 09 DEC 1792 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England >>> this could be the Frances who was mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple
2. JACOB PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUL 1784 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England >>> father of Eliza Partridge Searle
3. JAMES PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 11 OCT 1789 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England 4. HENRY PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 FEB 1787 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
5. MALACHI PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 08 NOV 1778 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England >>> father of Frances who was christened in 1809
6. JOHN PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1776 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England 7. ELIZABETH PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1796 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England 8. SUSANNAH PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 09 SEP 1781 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
So Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother Frances Partridge was either Fanny the sister of Eliza Partridge Searle's father Jacob or Frances the daughter of Eliza Partridge Searle's father's brother Malachi
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And there may be a Bools relationship too
Eliza Partridge Searle's mother was Elizabeth Bools If Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother was Frances Partridge christened 1809, her grandmother was Rebecca Bools ... perhaps the sister of Elizabeth Bools Partridge ...
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