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Savill (Saville)- William & Eliza c 1800, Emma DoB

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 04:45

???? 1851 Census

Name: George Mascali <<<< could be Mascali or Mascall on image
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Farnham

Civil Parish: Bishops Stortford
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Bishops Stortford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub registration district: Sawbridgeworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Bishop Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
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Emma Lovett 3
George Mascali 5
Emma Mascall 7 b.ca 1844, Farnham
Lydia Mascall 11 b.ca 1840, Farnham
Mary Mascall 9 b.ca 1842, Farnham
Emily Petts 4
Mary Prior 4
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.


+ ???

Name: Elizabeth Mascall
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Farnham

Civil Parish: Bishops Stortford
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Bishops Stortford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub registration district: Sawbridgeworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Bishop Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1





They were spread all over the place!!!!


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 04:49

Finally found Isaac

1851 Census

Name: Isaac Mascall
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Farnham

Civil Parish: Bishops Stortford
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Bishops Stortford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub registration district: Sawbridgeworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Bishop Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
.
.
.
William Marcall 56 <<<<?????? b.ca 1795, Farnham
William Markwell 62
Chas Mascall 16 <<<<<????? b.ca 1835, Farnham
Isaac Mascall 40 Labourer
William Mascall 25 <<<<???? b.ca 1826, Farnham. Widower, Labourer
Charles Nash 28
Reginald Nash 71
John Nealy 63
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sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 04:54

Do these Maskells have a connection with Isaac??? They are the two Williams from the 1851 Census

1841 Census

Name: William Maskell
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Farnham
Hundred: Clavering
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Bishops Stortford
Sub registration district: Bishops Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Maskell 35
Mariann Maskell 20
William Maskell 40
William Maskell 15

Address:- Church End


Looks like 2 separate households in the same house ..... James and Mariann and the two Williams



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 05:05

There's something wrong here ......... this is what you wrote for the children:-

Children starting with
Charles DOB 3/7/36,
Ellen DOB 14/1/38,
Mary Ann DOB 26/1/39,
Linda DOB 30/1/41,
Abraham 10/4/42
Emma 14/4/44
George 18/4/46
all above born Farnham essex England
>>>>>> Arthur William 3/6/49 born Hazel End, Farnham Essex
>>>>>Jane 27/5/54 born Farnham Essex
>>>>>>Isaac James Henry 6/8/49 St Kilda Victoria.



How can Arthur William have been born 3/6/49, Hazel End, Farnham, AND Isaac James Henry have been born 6/8/49 St Kilda, Victoria, AND Jane born 27/5/54 Farnham ??????????


That's just not possible!!!



sylvia

beedan

beedan Report 4 Jul 2008 13:24

sorry blame the typist at 2am. last born was 1859.

There were at least three maskell families living in farnham at 41 census probably all related but not sure how could be brothers or cousins. I need to find Isaac's parents - father was Abraham born about 1783 in Farnham, died 1851 in Bishops Stortford (probably poor house), mother Elizabeth unknown maiden name died about 1816 in Farnham, essex.
Still need to find Emma's parents William and Eliza Savill/Savell or similar

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Jul 2008 19:52

Could this be Abraham in 1841??

1841 Census

Name: Abraham Maskell
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Farnham
Hundred: Clavering
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Bishops Stortford
Sub registration district: Bishops Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Maskell 55 Ag Lab
Lucy Maskell 50

Address: Farnham Green



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Jul 2008 20:00

How does Frating Essex fit in with Farnham??????


This is on the IGI


IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download


ISAAC MASKELL Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 OCT 1811 Frating, Essex, England

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ABRAHAM MASKELL Family

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C043481 1560 - 1812 0571179 Film 6909021 Film



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Jul 2008 20:05

In which case, the following are also shown as with father Abraham Maskell and christened in Frating




MARY MASKELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 MAR 1809 Frating, Essex, England


REBECCA MASKELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 FEB 1805 Frating, Essex, England



ABRAH. MASKELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 NOV 1806 Frating, Essex, England



sylvia

Gilda

Gilda Report 5 Jul 2008 05:03

I have a 5th, 6th etc cousin with surname "Saville" and I am sure he has an ancestor named "Emma" (Saville) somewhere ? in the family and as Emma came to Australia and both my cousin and I are Australian and live here there COULD BE ? a link somewhere - just a thought !!
Gilda

beedan

beedan Report 6 Jul 2008 08:16

Frating Maskells are not this family, I have been down this path.
The Emma refered to in last posting is a Savill, mine is a Maskell but could be related through a line back in England.
To decide who is related and how need to find Isaac & Emma's parents. I am confident of information I have on Isaac and Emma due to information on death certificates. IF only 1831 census was available - that would certainly help.
I think without personal research in parish records I will not find anything further on Isaac and Emma's parentage unless I fluke someone else doing that for their family tree.
Thanks for all your persistence.