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Nicholas's wife's remarriage??

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1920 (83%)
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Hall Isabella Patten Glendale 10b 1323
Patten William Hall Glendale 10b 1323

hi rootgatherer, youve just thrown me, there I had decided that this johnson patton was their cousin, no he is their half brother, Ive been spelling patten wrong.

so did Isabella Hall become patten by marrying a william patten? yes revelation I think youre right. many thanks

I don't think that you have been spelling it wrong - I think it may have changed or it has been mistranscribed.

The marriage certainly is Patten on freebmd but this is the birth!!

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
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Patton Johnson T Oxley Lanchester 10a 662



I am wondering if Isabella's family originated from the Borders as Isabella is quite a Scottish name (in Scotland Isabella and Elizabeth were interchangeable) and Johnson/ Johnstone is quite a common surname in the Scottish borders. Also in Scotland it wasn't uncommon to give a son the mother or grandmother's maiden surname as a christian name.



EDIT

We are lucky that in Scotland when a widow or divorcee remarries, her marriage is indexed using both her maiden surname AND her previous married name - makes life easier!

oh thankyou for that, Scottish history is harder isnt it?

Im going to try and keep tracing them back in the different census's if I can.

thanks to you all much appreciated

A tree on Ancestry has this info.

Esther Brown born 7/3/1846 died 22/2/1931 Durham and Thomas Carter 1841 Yorkshire died 1872,although no marriage shown had Mary Alice Brown Carter 1868 who married Robert Hall.
Esther Brown married in that name as a spinster in 10/5/1872 to William Hindmarch ORD.
This was after the death of Thomas Carter.
Robert Hall and Mary Alice Brown Carter had Nicholas Ord Hall and also Robert Hindmarch Hall in Houghton le Springs 1888.

Maryb

wow Mary I am writing all this down, thanks a lot. Wonder why they didnt marry, wonder if thomas carter was already married to someone else!

thanks to everyone today

Link maybe
Isabella Patten born 1/4/1895 died April 1986 age 91
North First
Northumberland
1 1815

1901 could be as age fits

Boldon Colliery district 48 image 16
William )Wilkinson ) Oxley 1870 Durham
Mary 1870 Durham nee Defty.
Wilkinson 1888
Isabella Boldon Colliery 1894

1911 Wilkinson Oxley Colliery worker born 1870
Mary 1870
Nichol Oxley 1890 (Nicholas died in mining accident in 1912)
Isabella 1894
William 1896
Richard 1900
Thomas Turnbull Oxley 1907
41,Wells Row
Boldon Colliery
Durham.

Maryb

1911 for Nicholas Ord Hall 1892?
11,Bedfordshire Street
Court Durham
South Sheilds
James Larmer 1880 miner born Durham
Mary Alice larmer 1867 Cockfield Durham (Widow of Robert Hall)?
Nichols Hall stepson 1892 Miner born West Rainton.(So that fits)
Edward Hall 1898
David Hall/Larmer 1906.

Maryb

woweee, Mary is that Isabella patten daughter to isabella oxley who became hall who then married william patten.

no Im being stupid that isabelle patten is the first one who was hall and was oxley, she has just lived to a grand old age, how wonderful thankyou

The O is Ord - a search of the local index gets:

1918 Death
Nicholas Ord HALL
Register: 84 Entry: 423
District: South Shields

http://www.southtyneside.info/communitysupport/register/search/default.aspx

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Have you sent Mary a private message to her inbox ?
If not, click on her name.

yes I have thanks

Please can anyone triple check for me is there another death for Isabella patten/patton born 1894 previous name hall other than the 1986 one.

on ancestry it is so confusing as her marriage is spelt one way and the birth of her sons surname is spelt another.

then there appears to be two deaths so similar in two different areas, I dont understand why. Thanks everyone

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Please if anyone has access to WW1 Records, if they could tell me any info on nicholas hall born around 1892 who died in 1918 from the durham area.

many thanks