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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 06:16 |
Hi all.
I'm trying to find more details about my grandfather Herbert Peacock who was born around 1884 in Russia ( I believe) - and who was the British Consul in Krasnoyarsk in Siberia in around 1916.
He was also working for the Revillon Frere fur company.
He and his wife died in 1923 in Yokohama in the Great Kanto Earthquake.
I don't know his wife's name, but I think it was 'Lucille'. She was French.
Thanks for any help with this.
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2011 06:36 |
do you know anything more
Any idea of who his parents were?
How did you get back to him.
Where was your parents= (his son or daughter?) born?
Do you have your parent's birth certificate ........... that will show the mother's maiden name, and thus we might be able to find the marriage of Herbert and "Lucille"
Have you tried googling his name?
sylvia
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 06:45 |
Hello Sylvia. Thanks for replying.
His parents were Dimitri Rudolph Peacock and Yevgeniya (nee Kozminykh).
Dimitri Rudolph Peacock was appointed as British Consul General in Odessa, southern Ukraine in 1891. He died in Odessa a year later in 1892. I think he was murdered by a political assassin, but I'm not entirely sure.
He had six children, of which Herbert Peacock was one. Herbert Peacock was my mother's father.
Regards, Allan Munro-Smith
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 06:50 |
I've Googled his name thoroughly.
I don't have my parent's birth certificate. My mother was born in Krasnoyarsk.
I know these things from my mother, and also from the book (written in 1923) - 'Two Centuries of Fur-Trading, 1723 - 1923. Romance of the Revillon Family. by Marcel Sexe.
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Lynski
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1 Feb 2011 06:58 |
Is this him???
Elias Herbert Peacock
Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 birth: 13 May 1881 — Torjak Govt. of Iver, Russia residence: Russia parents: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock, Tatiana Bakunine record title: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 name: Elias Herbert Peacock gender: Male birth date: 13 May 1881 birthplace: Torjak Govt. of Iver, Russia father's name: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock mother's name: Tatiana Bakunine indexing project (batch) number: C00736-9 system origin: Russia-EASy source film number: 1494318
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1 Feb 2011 07:00 |
that looks good Lynne!
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2011 07:07 |
here's the notice of probate of Demetrius will, from ancestry
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Demetrius Rudolph Peacock
Name: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock Probate Date: 22 Jun 1893 Death Date: 23 May 1892 Death Place: Russia Registry: London
died at the Hotel de Londres, Odessa
Limited administration granted to Wellington Taylor, solicitor, the attorney of Tytyana Peacock, the widow
Effects:- £255 13s 5d in England
sylvia
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1 Feb 2011 07:08 |
was Herbert educated in England?
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 07:10 |
Well done, Lynne! :)
That's definitely him.
Tatiana's father was Ilya Bakunin who I believe was the brother of Mikhail Aleksandrovich Bakunin, the Anarchist.
A grand-niece of Bakunin was Tatiana Ossorguine-Bakounine who lived in Paris as a Russian emigre. She wrote a book : 'L'Emigration Russe en France... '
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 07:15 |
Sylvia in Canada - I don't know if Herbert was educated in England. My mother never once mentioned he had been educated in England.
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Lynski
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1 Feb 2011 07:18 |
Are these children of Demetrius?
Results for: Peacock, Continental Europe Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C007369 [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download International Genealogical Index / Continental Europe - 3 Find more European records by searching on the updated FamilySearch site. Click here... Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. Elizabeth Peacock - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 08 JUL 1885 Turum Caucasus, , Russia, Ussr 2. Elias Herbert Peacock - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 13 MAY 1881 Torjak Govt Of Iver, , Russia, Ussr 3. Henry Kartchkhal Peacock - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 26 AUG 1883 Tayok,Govt Of Tver, , Russia, Ussr
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 08:04 |
Yes Lynne - Henry and Elias Herbert are definitely brothers. Elizabeth Peacock I didn't know of.
Demetrius Rudolph Peacock managed a farming estate in Mashuk, Russia for the owner, Mikhail Ivanovich Petrunkevich - who was married to a Yelizaveta.
Demetrius's father was Charles Peacock (born c1837) who around 1860 arrived in Russia from Lancashire to fill a job vacancy as a farm manager.
His father was a Lancashire farmer, also named Charles Peacock, born c1814.
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1 Feb 2011 08:20 |
Just to confirm -
Elizabeth Peacock Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: 08 JUL 1885 Turum Caucasus, , Russia, Ussr Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock Family Mother: Tatiana Bakunine
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 08:40 |
Thank you Lynne.
There should be two more siblings besides Charles, Henry, Elias Herbert, and Elizabeth.
I would like to know the name of Elias Herbert's wife, who was French. She began the French line of my family tree. Her sister's name was Madeleine.
Regards, Allan
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Lynski
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1 Feb 2011 18:55 |
Hi, Allan. I have found this and wonder if it is somehow connected? He was born in Russia and Eliah could be wrongly written Elias? If it is right then it gives the name of his wife - Odilla Sarrot?
Eliah Herbert Peacock
British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986 spouse: Odillia Sarrot record title: British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986 death date: 05 Dec 1957 death place: Queen Charlotte City, British Columbia, Canada name: William Herbert Peacock gender: Male age: 49y birth date: 19 May 1908 birthplace: Krasnoyarsk, Siberia Russia marital status: Married spouse: Otellia Madelina Loran father: Eliah Herbert Peacock mother: Odillia Sarrot digital folder number: 4437628 british columbia archives film number: B13235 registration number: 57 09 013753
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Lynski
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1 Feb 2011 19:00 |
Another child? -
Evelyn Tamara Peacock
Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 birth: 13 Jan 1891 — Batum (Batum), Kutais, Russia residence: Batum (Batum), Kutais, Russia parents: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock, Fatiana Bakunine record title: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 name: Evelyn Tamara Peacock gender: Female birth date: 13 Jan 1891 birthplace: Batum (Batum), Kutais, Russia father's name: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock mother's name: Fatiana Bakunine indexing project (batch) number: C00671-7 system origin: Russia-EASy source film number: 1494325
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Lynski
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1 Feb 2011 19:00 |
And another? -
Mary Peacock
Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 birth: 15 Oct 1887 — Batum (Batum), Kutais, Russia residence: Batum (Batum), Kutais, Russia parents: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock, Fatiana Bakunine record title: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 name: Mary Peacock gender: Female birth date: 15 Oct 1887 birthplace: Batum (Batum), Kutais, Russia name note: Registered 24 Dec 1887 father's name: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock mother's name: Fatiana Bakunine indexing project (batch) number: C00671-7 system origin: Russia-EASy source film number: 1494325
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1 Feb 2011 19:04 |
And finally, the last one? -
Charles Albert Peacock
Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 birth: 18 Jun 1880 — Village Diadina of the District of Tovjok ... of ..., Russia residence: Russia parents: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock, Takano Bakunine record title: Russia Births and Baptisms, 1755-1917 name: Charles Albert Peacock gender: Male birth date: 18 Jun 1880 birthplace: Village Diadina of the District of Tovjok ... of ..., Russia father's name: Demetrius Rudolph Peacock mother's name: Takano Bakunine indexing project (batch) number: C00736-9 system origin: Russia-EASy source film number: 1494318
6 children - Charles Albert, 1880 Elias Herbert, 1881 Henry Kartchkhal, 1883 Elizabeth, 1885 Mary, 1887 Evelyn Tamara, 1891
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WestwardHo
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1 Feb 2011 20:20 |
Lynne! You're a marvel!
Thank you so much.
I knew I had an Uncle 'Willie' in Canada who was my mother's brother. He had a son, Danny or Daniel - but that's all.
You've also discovered Mary Peacock and others that I never knew of.
I'm now going to add these names to the huge chart I've been making of my family tree.
It's great that you've also unturfed my mother's mother's name, as this now allows me to start tracing my French Connection.
My mother's cousins were Simone and Lucien, living respectively in the village of Sos in southern France, and in Agen in the province of Lot-et-Garonne.
I'll be chasing these up.
I'm hoping to be able to present our family tree to my 36yo niece who doesn't know I'm doing this.
The last time she visited me she asked about her family tree, and I gave her a miserably poor little chart that I had made up years ago - full of errors and very skinny on information.
After she had left, I felt I had let her down badly. She deserves better than that. She herself had studied hard to get a doctorate in science, and I felt I should at least make the effort to present her with a halfway decent Family Tree chart.
Thanks heaps, Lynne!
Allan
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Lynski
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1 Feb 2011 20:27 |
Glad to be of assistance, Allan. Regards Lynne
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