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Julcoe
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17 Mar 2009 13:16 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Grace Isabella Nish Name: Grace Isabella Nish Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<<<<<<< State: Victoria District: Kooyong Subdistrict: Glenferrie OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. 397 Glenferrie Rd., Glenferrie
Grace Isabella Nish b. 1897 ; d. 1979 as HARDIDGE
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Grace Isobel Hardidge Name: Grace Isobel Hardidge Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1931 <<<<<<< & 1936 <<<<<< State: Victoria District: Kooyong Subdistrict: Camberwell OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Regent St., Burwood with William Henry, --
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Julcoe
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17 Mar 2009 13:28 |
Jessie Nish b. 1899 ; d. 1982 ; m. 1920 Ernest Charles TOLLEY --> Albert William b. abt 1921 ; d. 1942 Ballarat
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Ernest Charles Tolley Name: Ernest Charles Tolley Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1924 <<<<<<<<< State: Victoria District: Melbourne Subdistrict: Hotham OCCUPATION .. -- Driver ADDRESS .. 12 Collie St., Morth Melb. with Jessie, h/d
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Jessie Tolley Name: Jessie Tolley Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1931 <<<<<<< & 1936 <<<<<< State: Victoria District: Bourke Subdistrict: Coburg OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Greenwood St., W7.... ( same address as mother)
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Julcoe
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17 Mar 2009 13:37 |
Mary Ethel Nish b. 1902 ; d. 1982 as INGLIS
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Mary Ethel Nish Name: Mary Ethel Nish Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1931 <<<<<<<<<<< State: Victoria District: Kooyong Subdistrict: Kew OCCUPATION .. Nurse ADDRESS .. 283 Cotham Rd., Kew
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Mary Ethel Inglis Name: Mary Ethel Inglis Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<<<<<<<< State: Victoria District: Kooyong Subdistrict: Kew OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. 32 Highbury Grove, Kew with Lindsay Ballantyne Anderson INGLIS, Med. Pract. ... (Doctor)
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Kaye
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18 Mar 2009 00:21 |
Catherine and Julie,
I can't thank you both enough for the wonderful information you have provided to me. Thank you. I have a few days off work this week so will up date my tree and see what questions may arise from this. It takes me a while to get my head around things. I'm just amazed when I see helpers on this site seem 'to nutt out' things so very quickly. I don't have internet at home so will be online up to 5.00pm today (Aust) and back online again Monday.
Catherine, I will have to research more into Isabella's mother being Catherine Black and see if I can find something to confirm this. You are probably right that I haven't found the right birth for Isabella.
Julie, thank you for all the AER information, that is terrific information.
How easy is it to use Scotland People, I had joined Find My Past and I found my credits went in a flash just by not being being computer savvy on that particular site, is Scots People easy to use?
Catherine, do you know when Grace Sproat (Nish) died?
Even though William Snr occupation was noted as 'butcher' on son's marriage certificate but his occupation in the Scot Census in 1841 say 'Tailor' which one would you feel is more than likely correct as the occupations are worlds apart. Do you agree that we definately have the right family in Wigstown as it sure seems to be.
Thank you again. Warm regards Kaye
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Catherine
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18 Mar 2009 08:39 |
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
I found the site really easy to use. You have to register to use but that doesn't cost anything.
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I'll have a look to see if I can narrow down a death for Grace!
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Catherine
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18 Mar 2009 08:46 |
The census records I found were the only ones that fit with father William and mother Grace. Are they the correct ones or not? I would say yes. If, as you say, mothers maiden name on Australian certs are shown and he states his mother as mn Sproat, then it certainly is the correct one. Why did he state his father as butcher on his marriage cert.? Only he can answer that.
Have narrowed her death down:-
Surname: Nish Forename: Grace Other Surnames: Sproat Year: 1868 Birth Year: 1803 County: Wigtown District: Sorbie
edit:- There is another Grace Nish that died about the same time that I came across whilst doing my search :- Surname: Nish Forename: Grace Mothers maiden name: Sproat Year: 1863 Birth Year: 1843 County: Wigtown District: Sorbie
This one would seem to be the daughter of William and Grace and therfore your William's sister.
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Carole
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18 Mar 2009 08:51 |
hi kaye
glad to hear that mother was grace spro(a)t that means we are on the right track.
carole
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Catherine
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18 Mar 2009 09:39 |
1851 census shows:- Mary Nish 48 - Half Sister - born: Sorbie, Wigtonshire (Formerly House Servant )
Had a look on familysearch.org and found this which could be a clue to parents of William (father):- MARY DAVIDSON NISH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 13 APR 1803 Sorbie, Wigtown, Scotland Father: THOMAS NISH Mother: ELISABETH GRAHAM
marriage for this couple:- THOMAS NISH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 15 JUN 1802 Sorbie, Wigtown, Scotland Spouse: ELISABETH GRAHAM
If Mary was William's half sister then that would mean that Thomas was their father (having the same surname) and Elisabeth would have been Thomas' second wife. So we now need to find the first.
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Catherine
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18 Mar 2009 09:52 |
Trying to tie up some loose ends!
1861 census shows:- George Wilson 38 - Brother born: Penninghame, Wigtown (Shepherd) as Grace was Head of Household, then he should be her brother. As they didn't have the same surname could be they were half brother/sister. (Same mother).
Found this also on familysearch.org:- GEORGE WILSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 24 OCT 1822 Penninghame, Wigtown, Scotland Father: DAVID WILSON Mother: JANET PARKER
marriage for this couple:- DAVID WILSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 09 JAN 1820 Penninghame, Wigtown, Scotland Spouse: JANET PARKER
found him in 1841 (to see age of father):- Name: David Wilson Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Penninghame County: Wigtownshire Address: Clachan Of Penningham Occupation: Ag Lab Parish Number: 895 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Wilson 45 Janet Wilson 45 George Wilson 18 David Wilson 4 Elisabeth Wilson 11 Janet Wilson 10 Margaret Wilson 5 John Neilson 17
so father born 1796 - Grace was born abt. 1803 so couldn't be David's daughter. This one is a bit of a mystery. Better keep him on file for future reference, till you know exactly how they are related.
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Catherine
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18 Mar 2009 10:02 |
Mary Nish (the half sister) in 1841:-
Name: Mary Nish Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Female Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Sorbie County: Wigtownshire Address: Sorbie Village Parish Number: 897 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Nish 35 Walter MacLean 7 (doesn't state the relationship)
on the same census page as William, Grace and family.
Walter's christening:- WALTER LAURIE MCLEAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 27 OCT 1833 Sorbie, Wigtown, Scotland Father: ALEXANDER MCLEAN Mother: MARY NISH
so Walter was the illegitimate son of Mary.
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Kaye
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23 Mar 2009 04:22 |
Hi Catherine,
You found some terrific information, especially regarding William (snr) b.1783 two marriages and his father Thomas also likely two marriages. Will have to see if I can find the first wife of Thomas. Do you know if there were alot of Nish families in Sorbie back in the late 1700's? If not, that would make my deductions a little safer.
Interesting about George Wilson (brother) it doesn't seem likely does it. But you just never know, always best to hang onto information.
Thank you for helping me with this research, this would have taken me weeks to pull it all together.
If you come up with anything else for this family, I would be very appreciative. I will keep on with it and maybe some hot matches might come of it.
Kind regards Kaye
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