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please dont be mad that im posting the name again, im still trying to solve this, i now know naomi morgan was born in 1858, she was born in a place called llanwenarth, ivil parish llanover upper, parish blaenavon,i am wondering if anyone has over seas records thye could look at for me as i cant find a marriage for her in wales, i thought she either emigrated years ago to usa or she was deported for being a naughty girl, please can you help solve the mystery many thanks

hi ginny, sorry i thought it best i deleted the earlier thread, i will try and explain it, thomas cordy but i think they hav espelt it wrong they say cardy, married mary ann harris, she already had children from a previous, those children were sarah morgan, margaret morgan, james morgan, naomi morgan, then she had 2 children with thomas emma and elizabeth, they were cordy, my elderly mother said naomi went over seas, so we dont know if she married over there, my mum thought she went to austrailia but i dont know hope thats enough info im competley at a loss

i cant find a marriage for her at all

Hello Glynis,

Have just realised your thread we helped you on has gone.......If I remember we posted 3 marriages for A Naomi Morgan, are you not following these up?

Annx

hi yes, i have a copy of the names of possible marriages, i sent a few people messages on genes but a few messages back and it is not there men so i dont know where to go from here, i dont know if she even married over here, my mum seems to think she was shipped of to austrailia for being naughty but we dont know at what age

Do you have Mary Ann with her first family on the 1861 census?

Who was Naomi's father?

Annx

no i dont and i dont know who naomis father is i presume its morgan as there were other morgan children

1861 census - household transcription
Person: MORGAN, Naomi
Address: Hill Street, Llanover Upper
MORGAN, Charles Head Married M 23 1838 Iron Miner
Blackburn
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Margrett Wife Married F 21 1840 Iron Miners Wife
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Naomi Daughter Unmarried F 0 (11M) 1861
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire



Hmm right place
I wonder if there were sveral marriages involved

naomis mother was called mary ann

and naomi was def born in 1858 in llanwenarth wales

Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
CORDY Thomas Crickhowell 11b 182
HARRIS Mary A Crickhowell 11b 182

Glynis,

As you are sure of her birth date & place.........have you sent for her birth cert?

Ann

Have you tried this marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1879

>>>>>MORGAN Naomi Abergavenny 11a 71
>>>>>Powell Thomas Abergavenny 11a 71
Williams Matilda Abergavenny 11a 71
Williams William Abergavenny 11a 71

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1901 Census for above couple ?

1901 Wales Census 1901 Wales Census
Name: Naomi Powell
Age in 1901: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Powell
Gender: Female
Where born: Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Llangattock Nigh Usk
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangattock nigh and Usk St Cadoc
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Old Rectory
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Llanvihangel
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Powell 43 ---farm Bailliff
Naomi Powell 42
George Powell 18
Edith E Powell 14
William L Powell 8

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4930; Folio: 94; Page: 7.

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Was Mary Ann's maidern name Morgan or was she married 3 times ?

i belive her maiden name was harris

a possibility

1851 census - household transcription
Person: MORGAN, Mary Ann
Address: Tyr Sorcot, Llanwenarth Citra
JENKINS, William Head Married M 22 1829 Farmer
Llangatock Lingod
Monmouthshire
JENKINS, Rachel Wife Married F 29 1822 Farmer Wife
Llanwenarth
Monmouthshire
MORGAN, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 1841 Farmer Daur
Llanwenarth
Monmouthshire


a possibility

but her name was Harris when she married Thomas. ?

If her maiden name was Harris and she married Thomas Cordy as Harris, then whose children are the Morgans ??

ladykira, im sure mary ann was born harris

MAYBE Naomi in 1911 cencus


1911 census transcription details for: Graig Vatha Newtown Ebbw Vale

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN31814 RG78PN1832 RD585 SD1 ED1 SN197


Reg. District: Bedwellty Sub District: Aberystruth
Parish: Ebbw Vale Enum. District: 1

Address: Graig Vatha Newtown Ebbw Vale
County: Monmouthshire

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

POWELL, Thomas Head Married M 55 1856 Farm Labourer Llanwapley Monmouth

POWELL, Naomi Wife Married 30 years F 53 1858 Blaenavon Monmouth

POWELL, William Levi Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer General Penpergam Monmouth

HINDER, Ernest Arthur Head Married M 29 1882 Signalman Worcester Worcester

HINDER, Edith Ellen Wife Married 2 years F 25 1886 Pimpergm Monmouth

HINDER, James Arthur Son Single M 2 1909 Ebbw Vale Monmouth