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20 Jun 2010 14:11 |
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *****Clarey Annie Isabella Tynemouth 10b 447 Coulthard Mary Ann Tynemouth 10b 447 Golightly Alexander Tynemouth 10b 447 *****Pazzal Polo Tynemouth 10b 447
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20 Jun 2010 14:12 |
the same Polo Pazzal ?
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burkett Emily Ann E S. Shields 10a 1614 Fletcher Christina S. Shields 10a 1614 *****PAZZAL Polo S. Shields 10a 1614 Webster Samuel Bradley S. Shields 10a 1614
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Astra
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20 Jun 2010 14:19 |
That's the question!
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WayneTracey
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20 Jun 2010 14:20 |
If you ordered the marriage cert you will be able to compare it to the one with Annie and see if his father is the same.
T x
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Astra
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20 Jun 2010 14:25 |
I think before I invest any more money into this I need to find the rest of the Pazall Family in 1911 as the births may well belong to one or more of them. The don't appear to be there so I'm wondering if they have slipped across the border to Scotland for work maybe. I have to go out for an hour but I will take another look when I get back.
Polo Pazzal Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's Name: Paulo Mother's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Wallsend Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Wallsend County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Wallsend ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Paulo Pazzal 40 Charlotte Pazzal 30 Josephine Pazzal 18 Clementina Pazzal 13 Polo Pazzal 21 Blanchette Pazzal 11 Peter Pazzal 7 Rosena Pazzal 6 Carolina Pazzal 2 Mo Austin Usher 60
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20 Jun 2010 14:30 |
I agree, buying many certs for a project is expensive, esp when you have so many ends to tie up.
I am currently in the process of trying to find my OH GGmother we know after when she died, but not the actual year, so i am now ordering 4 certs a month with her name and rough age trying to find her....i shall however win this game, but it's most def a very long road.
How far have you got with finding all the Pazzal people on the 1911 census?
T x
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Jun 2010 14:43 |
Off to the local Welcoming Inn for a while. They phoned yesterday to see if we were still alive as we have not been seen for so long apparently.
Now that is what I call care in the community.:))
Have fun all ~~~~~~~~
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Astra
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20 Jun 2010 15:47 |
Right. Dog walked and exercise taken so back to the Pazzal family. I haven't found any of them yet Tracey apart from Paolo who I assume to be Polo although he may of course, not be. If this family were mine I would invest in the certs without question. I have hundreds for my lot and haven't finished yet (do we ever finish?). But it is for a friend of my partners who is the grandson of Robert Noble Junior. I have no doubt in my mind that he is the son of Robert Senior and Annie Pazzal especially as he more or less verified it by naming one of his daughters after her but I would like to find her earlier on in her life as either Annie Clarey or Annie Brown and find out exactly who she was so I can take this line back further on both sides and, of course, to satisfy my curioisty!
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20 Jun 2010 16:13 |
Progress maybe
Annie Isabella Brown Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Isabella Gender: Female Where born: Simonburn, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Leemailing County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: Green Cottage Registration district: Bellingham Sub-registration district: Kirkwhelpington ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Brown 46 Isabella Brown 46 James Brown 13 Joseph Brown 11 Thomas Brown 9 John Brown 7 Annie Isabella Brown 1
EDIT: No she married James Henderson
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Dea
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20 Jun 2010 17:02 |
These Pazzall's are very elusive on 1911 aren't they?
You say you have found only Paulo so far but if you have him, you will note he is living with married sister Clementina and her family:
BECK, George Head Married M 28 1883 Ship Plater South Shilds Durham VIEW BECK, Elementina Wife Married 4 years F 23 1888 Wallsend Northland VIEW BECK, William Son M 3 1908 Heaton Northland VIEW BECK, Blanche Daughter F 1 1910 Hebburn Durham VIEW PAZZAL, Paulo Boarder Single M 29 1882 General Labour North Shield Northland VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 30385 Reference: RG14PN30385 RG78PN1746 RD556 SD2 ED37 SN99 Registration District: South Shields Sub District: Jarrow Enumeration District: 37 Parish: Hebburn Address: 9 1/2 Rose St Hebburn County: Durham Marriages Sep 1906 BECK George Newcastle T. 10b 236 PAZZAL Clementina Newcastle T. 10b 236
I will see if I can find any more!
Dea x
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Astra
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20 Jun 2010 17:25 |
Thanks Dea. I hadn't spotted that because it is the parents I need to find to see if the births of the two Pazzal children belong to them. I know Blanche was here in 1911 because she married in the September quarter but there are no entries from then until Annie married Robert in 1914. and after that nothing. So they either left the country or they changed their name.
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Dea
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20 Jun 2010 17:57 |
There is a death in 1904 for a Peter Pazzal - I wonder if this is an 'english' version of Paulo???
Deaths Mar 1904 PAZZAL Peter 44 S. Shields 10a 536
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There is also a marriage for a Charlotte the following year which 'could' be her but I can't trace the couple on 1911?
DIXON James Embleton Sunderland.10a 1095 2 1905 PAZZAL Charlotte Sunderland.10a 1095 2 1905
What do you think ?
Dea x
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Astra
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20 Jun 2010 18:52 |
I think you are right Dea!! Looking at the 1891 he is named as Peter
Peter Pazzal Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Catherina Gender: Male Where born: Wales Civil parish: Wallsend Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Wallsend County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Wallsend ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Peter Pazzal 20 Catherina Pazzal 29 Matthew Pazzal 11 Josephine Pazzal 8 Clementine Pazzal 3 Blanche Pazzal 1 Thomas Ireteng 20
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Astra
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20 Jun 2010 19:33 |
I've been going through the marriages in 1905 trying to find the missing spouse but I can't find the right one so I'm giving up with that idea now.
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