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willian j lingard . c1864

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Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 12:58

i am trying to trace my family and am struggling to get any further back than william j lingard, i think his mother was susan but am unsure he was married to ellen,
i do not know her maiden name .
any help would be fantastic

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:01

Hello Tony - where was he from?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:02

Is this him in 1911 - was he a burglar?! (Think occupation may be Horse Breaker)

LINGARD, William John Head Married M 47 1864 Housebreaker Essex Forest Gate
LINGARD, Ellen Wife Married 24 years F 42 1869 Essex Stratford
LINGARD, Harry Son Single M 23 1888 Bass Dresser Essex Stratford
LINGARD, Ellen Daughter Single F 20 1891 Confectioner Mixer Essex Stratford
LINGARD, Frederick Son Single M 17 1894 Machine Filler Essex Stratford
LINGARD, Maud Daughter Single F 15 1896 Confectioner Labourer Essex Stratford
LACKEY, William Boarder Single M 43 1868 Housekeeper Middlesex Bromley

Registration District: West Ham Sub District: Stratford Enumeration District: 2 Parish: West Ham

Address: 8 Abbey Lane Stratford West Ham E County: Essex

K

K Report 3 Apr 2011 13:02

1891? For Ref

Name: William J Lingard
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Lingard
Gender: Male
Where born: Forest Gate, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Lingard 27
Ellen Lingard 22
Harry Lingard 3
Esther M A Lingard 2

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:03

sorry , west ham london

K

K Report 3 Apr 2011 13:04

1881?

Name: William Lingard
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Barnard
Mother's Name: Susan Barnard
Gender: Male
Where born: Forest Gate, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 10 Lucas Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 27a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Barnard 56 Stableman b Ritle? Essex
Susan Barnard 53 b Greenhithe, Kent,
Susan Lingard 20
Emma Lingard 15
William Lingard 18
Samuel Sulings 55 lodger
James French 50 lodger

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:04

Marriage?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: William John Lingard << Horsebreaker
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Spouse Name: Ellen Moore
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 30 May 1886
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: George Henry Lingard << Bricklayer
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Moore << Stoker

Both lived in Poplar. witnesses were Ellen Elizabeth Webber and John Elsdon

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:05

wow , thats bang on with some info i have , any info on his parents ?

Flick

Flick Report 3 Apr 2011 13:09

Father's name is in the marriage info posted above

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:11

thank you for the info , how did you do that , i have been banging my head for days , i guess i have a lot to learn , so how do i chase susan barnard backwards , maybe i should look with dates a few years either way .
thanks again

K

K Report 3 Apr 2011 13:12

1861 pre William John's birth and his father's death

Name: George Linguard
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan Linguard
Gender: Male
Where born: Boxwell, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Plaistow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Household Members:
Name Age
George Linguard 37
Susan Linguard 32
Eliza Linguard 3

Flick

Flick Report 3 Apr 2011 13:17

1871

Name: Susan Lingard
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Susan Lingard
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 120a
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Lingard 42
Henry G Lingard 16 b. Bromley, Middx
Susan Lingard 8
Willm Lingard 6
Emma Lingard 4
Waller Lingard 9 Months

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:19

ok here is what i have as fact
my father was reginald watson ,his father robert watson , married maud lingard i make her father willaim j lingard . and am very confused right now .
thank you all for your help .
kind regards

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:21

Tony, what are you confused about?

What do you mean by "you make her father wm j lingard"? Don't you have their marriage certificate?

K

K Report 3 Apr 2011 13:22

1871 - Living next door to William Barnard and family

Name: Willm Lingard
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Susan Lingard
Gender: Male
Where born: Forest Gate, Essex, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 120a
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Lingard 42
Henry G Lingard 16
Susan Lingard 8
Willm Lingard 6
Emma Lingard 4
Waller Lingard 9 Months


Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:24

the link to susan . i made a link to roxwell chelmsford but after contacting other memebrs with lingards in roxwell i found it was not the same one i think , i really need to print these details of and try to find the link to each one and confirm at every link . fantastic information and am very greatfull

Flick

Flick Report 3 Apr 2011 13:25

I can see no sign on freebmd of either of Susan's 'marriages'......or of George Henry's death

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:29

Tony -you're quite right to digest and do your own verification. Don't be too influenced by info other members have in their trees - you don't know what (if any) checking they may have done.

Flick

Flick Report 3 Apr 2011 13:29

Oh dear..........I do worry when people aren't using proven facts on which to base their research

Let's start again.........

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Lingard Maud Watson W.Ham 4a 303
Watson Robert Lingard W. Ham 4a 303


Are you guessing that Maud is the one shown on 1911 census?

Or do you have the marriage cert?

She would have been only 16/17 in 1911...........

Penny

Penny Report 3 Apr 2011 13:29

'scuse me, are you the Tony Lingard of Lingard motors?