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25 May 2009 08:58 |
Martha Kemp married John Dobb Pool Mar 1889, York, Yorkshire.
Martha remarried 25 Aug 1924,Brampton, Ontario, Canada, Hurbitus John Louis McGurie.
People have managed to find Martha and John on the 1901 and 1891 Census
I am trying to find out whether Martha and John her first husband and had any children.
Also I have been unable to locate a death for Martahas first Husband
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25 May 2009 09:03 |
1891 England Census Name: Martha Pool Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Dorr Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: St Maurice Ecclesiastical parish: St Maurice Town: Copmanthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Dorr Pool 24 Martha Pool 23
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25 May 2009 09:04 |
1901 England Census Name: Martha Pool Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: York County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 166 Household Members: Name Age John Pool 35 Martha Pool 34 William Glew 33
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25 May 2009 09:20 |
Thanks Choccy
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25 May 2009 09:22 |
Sorry it wasn't much help. Did first husband go to Canada with Martha? Not finding a death in the UK.
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25 May 2009 09:30 |
Hi Choccy
That I do not know I have been unable to find that out.
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25 May 2009 09:32 |
Do you know when Martha left UK. Have looked at Canadian passenger lists, but not found her.
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25 May 2009 09:43 |
Sorry I don not know that all I know is he married her 2nd husband in Canada 25 August 1924 Brampton, Ontario.
However I have managed to find the following:- Dina Bowker arriving 1865-1935, Quebec (cannot view record)
Dinah Bowker, UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960, arriving Southampton
Using exact matches options, its possible Dinah was born in 1861 and travelled back to the UK in 1921. Elizabeth Kemp married John Groves JFM 1883 from Free BMD Vol 9d Page 66
Elizabeth Groves born 1860 travelled from Liverpool to Quebec in 1909 from Find My Past.
Elizabeth and Dinah are Martha's Stisters. I have a photo that My Aunt gave me thats says Her Aunt Martha and her Sister Bessie in Canada date is not known.
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25 May 2009 09:57 |
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Dina Bowker Gender: Female Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Date of Arrival: 29 May 1921 Vessel: Canada Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-14713 and
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Aleck Bowker Gender: Male Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Date of Arrival: 29 May 1921 Vessel: Canada Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-14713
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25 May 2009 09:59 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Alec Bowker Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: York County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9d Page: 4
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25 May 2009 09:59 |
I wonder then as they were only visiting whether, Martha went to Canada with her first husband.
I have tried free bmd for a death but have been unable to find anything. Is is possible that they could have divorced or something else.
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25 May 2009 10:00 |
1901 England Census Name: Alec Bowker Age: 5 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Dinah Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Bootham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age John Bowker 39 Dinah Bowker 39 Elizabeth Bowker 14 Reginald Bowker 13 Lucy Bowker 11 Edith Bowker 9 Elise Bowker 6 Christopher Bowker 3 Sydney Bowker 1 ***************Alec Bowker 5 months
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25 May 2009 10:04 |
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Alec Bowker Birth Date: abt 1901 Age: 20 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 20 Aug 1921 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Cherbourg Ship Name: Olympic Search Ship Database: View the 'Olympic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: White Star Line Official Number: 131346
Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 705; Item: 30
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Dinah Bowker Birth Date: abt 1861 Age: 60 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 20 Aug 1921 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Cherbourg Ship Name: Olympic Search Ship Database: View the 'Olympic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: White Star Line Official Number: 131346 Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 705; Item: 30
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25 May 2009 10:11 |
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Elizabeth Groves Gender: Female Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Date of Arrival: 2 Sep 1909 Vessel: Empress of Britain Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Britain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-4763 travelled with children Dorothy aged 15, William aged 11 and Beatrice aged 8.
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25 May 2009 10:30 |
Hi Choccy no that is not my Elizabeth she married a John Groves
Elizabeth married John Groves31 Mar 1883 York, Yorkshire, John Died in 1886.
There was also another sister Nancy Kemp born 1864 unfortunatley at present I do not have any other information on this sister.
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25 May 2009 10:39 |
Just about to delete that border crossing with husband Thomas, but you beat me to it! Realised it was wrong.
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25 May 2009 11:07 |
for info
1871 England Census Name: Nancy Kemp Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Christopher Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Clifton Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Bootham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 160 Household Members: Name Age Christopher Kemp 40 Mary Kemp 40 Henry Palfreeman 19 Elizabeth Kemp 11 Dinah Kemp 9 Nancy Kemp 6 Martha Kemp 4 John D Kemp 2 months Henry G Pepper 19 Charles Unwin 18 I note that Henry Palfreeman is a 'son' of the family
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25 May 2009 11:09 |
Henry Palfreeman is Mary Janes son from her first marriage.
Mary Jane Kemp nee Pratt was married to George Palfreeman he died in 1855. They were married the 25/11/1850 and had 7 children Henry being the oldest.
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25 May 2009 11:16 |
Still not finding Martha going to Canada though. Keep going off on tangents!
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25 May 2009 11:52 |
Ok no problem
Many thanks for all the information you have found that has been very helpful you deserve a pat on the back.
Very much appreciated
Candis
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