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John

John Report 30 Mar 2009 19:49

I am struggling to find, birth and death index for
elizabeth [lizzy] johnson who married staveley hill
in 1898 aged 18, 26 victoria st coventry farthers
name james johnson labourer,
i have found 1881 cencus name elizabeth johnson, age 1,
mothers name elizabeth, living at much park street.
AND THEN
1891 cencus name lizzy johnson, age 11
mothers name emma, living at st johns st,
its all getting very confusing for me, as i have not
been doing this for very long,
i would be very greatfull, for any help you can give.
best wishes
john

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 30 Mar 2009 19:55

Hi John,


For ref;

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Johnson
Name: Elizabeth Johnson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Coventry St Michael
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 26 CT 2 Ho M Park St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Coventry
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Johnson 34
Elizabeth Johnson 33
James Johnson 6
Thomas Johnson 4
Elizabeth Johnson 1
Thomas Ryley 17


Artbeat

Artbeat Report 30 Mar 2009 20:01

1901
Name: Elizabeth Hill
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Spouse's Name: Stanelly
Gender: Female
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Coventry
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Coventry
Sub registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hill 55
Stanelly Hill 20
Elizabeth Hill 21
Henry Wm Hill 18
Alfred Hill 15
Geo Jas Hill 2
Staneley Hill 11 months
Thomas Johnson 24

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 30 Mar 2009 20:06

Possible birth????

Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
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Johnson Ella Elizabeth Coventry 6d 534

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 30 Mar 2009 20:11

Possible death for Lizzie's mother;


Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Johnson Elizabeth 38 Coventry 6d 268


Age 38

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 30 Mar 2009 20:15

for confirmation

Marriages Dec 1898
HILL Staveley Coventry 6d 1041
Johnson Lizzie Coventry 6d 1041

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 30 Mar 2009 20:22

1911 CENSUS

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
HILL, STANELEY HEAD MARRIED M 30 FITTER CYCLE WARWICKSHIRE COVENTRY
HILL, ELIZABETH WIFE MARRIED 12 F 30 COVENTRY
HILL, GEORGE JAMES SON M 12 SCHOOL COVENTRY
HILL, STANELEY SON M 10 SCHOOL COVENTRY
HILL, HORACE SON M 8 COVENTRY
HILL, ELIZABETH DAUGHTER F 6 COVENTRY
HILL, IDA MAY DAUGHTER F 4 COVENTRY
HILL, HENRY SON M 2 COVENTRY
HILL, ALFRED SON M 4 MONTHS COVENTRY


HILL STANELEY (RG14PN18553 RG78PN1111 RD390 SD2 ED15 SN190)
Address 50 COBDEN STREET COVENTRY County Warwickshire
District Coventry Subdistrict Holy Trinity
Enumeration District 15 Parish Coventry

Brenda

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 30 Mar 2009 20:42

Have looked for a death in name of Elizabeth Hill in Coventry 1935 - 1950
but unable to find one that fits the age.

Brenda

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Mar 2009 21:23

Looks like Staveley died in 1926 so is it possible that Lizzie remarried?

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Mar 2009 21:29

I've seen you other thread about Staveley marrying Alice Orton in 1922

is this the same Staveley, if so then presumably looking for death of Lizzie prior to that.


good idea to keep same lines of family on one thread

John

John Report 30 Mar 2009 22:53

the staveley who marride alice orton in 1922 was there son
sorry for the confusion,
and thank you all for your help and advice,
best wishes
john

Vicci

Vicci Report 30 Mar 2009 23:16

OK so which Stavely died in 1926 ?

could lizzy / Elizabeth remarried

John

John Report 31 Mar 2009 06:46

staveley born 1880 died 1926 marride to elizabeth johnson
yes it is possible she remarride.
and there son
staveley hill born 1900 died 1946 marride to alice may orton, alice was still alive in 1959 when i was born and she dident remarry.
best wishes john

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Mar 2009 08:32

I'm assuming you have the marriage cert for this one?

I have the parish transcript of the wedding.

(just in case you haven't)

Married 15.10.98
St Peters Church, Coventry
He: 19, Bac, Machinist...father George Hill, Painter (deceased)
Her: Lizzie Johnson, 18, Spin....father James Johnson, labourer.
Both living at the same address.
Witness's: Frederick Dowell & Sarah Oxford


Tracey x

Vicci

Vicci Report 31 Mar 2009 22:55

it might help if you get the death cert of Staveley and look for death informant or see if he was still married or a widower

Deaths Jun 1926 (>99%)
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Hill Staveley 46 Coventry 6d 771

John

John Report 31 Mar 2009 22:57

thanks denise
you are spot on with the death of lizzies mum
elizabeth, that makes sense of 1891 and 1881 census, its
starting to com together now,
meny thanks
john

Vicci

Vicci Report 31 Mar 2009 23:01

there are a couple of Lizzie Hill marraiges in Stourbridge

1927 and 1930

no Lizzy and a few Elizabeth's in warwickshire

John

John Report 31 Mar 2009 23:36

hi victoria
death cert dated 21st june informent e hill widow of deseased of 50 cobden street coventry.
thank you all for your help
best wishes
john

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 1 Apr 2009 17:39

Coventry is my 'patch' so to speak... i'm heading to the records office on Friday i hope, want to to see what i can find in the local rag for the funeral? There may well be a mourners list etc?


Tracey x

John

John Report 1 Apr 2009 21:04

hi tracey
i would be greatful for anythink you can find out do you need anymore information, ??
he died on the 18 june 1926 at gulson road hospital, and it was registerd on the 21st.
thanks again for all your help
john