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Katie
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24 Sep 2010 22:38 |
Can anyone help solve this puzzle for a friend of mine! Morwenna Pauline Hawker was born in Morwentstow Cornwall in 1865. She was one of the three daughters of Rev Robert Stephen Hawker's 2nd marriage. She married Charles Solomon Newman, a wealthy Jewish man, in Lewisham in 1889. They are living at 2 Manchester St, Brighton with her mother and sisters in 1891. No trace can be found after that. Charles Newman died in a fire in Kensington in 1899 - Morwenna is not mentioned in his obituary. Have tried all the usual records ( I think )! Any ideas? Katie
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tempest
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24 Sep 2010 23:10 |
for reference 1891 England Census about Charles S Newman Name: Charles S Newman Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Morwenna Newman Gender: Male Where born: London, England Civil parish: Brighton Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: Kemp Town ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles S Newman 33 Morwenna Newman 25 Pauline A Hawker 48 Rosalind Hawker 23 Tuliot Hawker 21 Andre P S Ambard 17 Walter F Ambard 14 George D S Olivant 23 Harriet L Olivant 21 Mary A Cross 50 Isabel Stonard 46 Carrie Baber 31 Charles Cracbrnell 23 Annie Brentman 25
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FannyByGaslight
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24 Sep 2010 23:48 |
Nothing,I find nothing.
I tried checking passenger lists on Find My Past but it is refusing to go to the page. Maybe it will go there tomorrow,but I have sent them a message as well to get it sorted out for me.
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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!
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24 Sep 2010 23:50 |
What about the other sisters? Has she tracked them?
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patchem
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24 Sep 2010 23:57 |
Have you tried a google search for her?:
HAWKER, MORWENNA PAULINE. 1865-1908. Pseudonym: Lanoe Falconer, q.v.
Connection?
Plus lots of information on her Father.
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25 Sep 2010 00:00 |
MORWENNA PAULINE HAWKER Pedigree Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 07 JAN 1866 Morwenstow, Cornwall, England Age at Christening: 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: ROBERT STEPHEN HAWKER Family Mother: PAULINE ANNE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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AnnCardiff
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25 Sep 2010 00:02 |
1881
Sophia BROWNE Other W Female 57 York, England Nun Works Of Charity Eliza VATER Other U Female 52 Hallaborough, Somerset, England Works Of Charity Cecilia EXTON Other U Female 24 Eaton Bishop, Hereford, England Works Of Charity Robinia DAW Other U Female 24 Ballarat, Australia Nun Works Of Charity Ellen COSGROVE Other U Female 24 London, London, Middlesex, England Works Of Charity Catherine MULEALEY Other U Female 23 Bristol Works Of Charity Christiana ERSKINE Boarder U Female 25 Turin, Italy Works Of Charity Pauline HAWKER Boarder W Female 37 London, London, Middlesex, England Works Of Charity Mary WINTHROP Boarder U Female 29 Bognore, Sussex, England Works Of Charity Jessie MATTHEWS Boarder U Female 23 London, London, Middlesex, England Works Of Charity Morwenna HAWKER Other Female 15 Morwenstow, Cornwall, England Scholar Linda HAWKER Other Female 13 Morwenstow, Cornwall, England Scholar Ethel WALMESLEY Other Female 14 Halwell, Devon, England Scholar Geraldine UNILIKE Other Female 13 Torquay, Devon, England Scholar Mary TIGHE Other Female 14 Trincomali, Ceylon Scholar Marian SEAGER Other Female 9 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar Kate DARGAN Other Female 14 Taunton Scholar Ada COLERIDGE Other Female 14 Teignmouth, Devon, England Scholar Agnes COX Other Female 13 Newton, Devon, England Scholar Margaret KELLY Other Female 15 Waymouth, Dorset, England Scholar (Continued)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling S. Mary's Priory Census Place Newton Abbot St Mary Church, Devon, England Family History Library Film 1341523 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2170 / 14 Page Number 21
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Katie
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25 Sep 2010 00:03 |
The other sisters are traced - Juliot became a nun and Rosalind married and had a daughter.
The google search that throws up Lanoe Falconer is wrong! Mary Hawker, a writer who never married, used that pseudonym. She has no known connection to the other Hawker family. Mary/Lanoe did die in 1908.
Katie
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Katie
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25 Sep 2010 00:09 |
I did find this marriage but cannot find Morwenna Mitchell prior to 1922 or a death for her. I can't link Morwenna Hawker/Newman to the surname Mitchell.
Marriages Jun 1922 Jackman Gladys M Wilson Exeter 5b 236 MITCHELL Morwenna P Tillbrook Exeter 5b 236 TILLBROOK Henry M Mitchell Exeter 5b 236 WILSON Reginald J Jackman Exeter 5b 236
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Ozibird
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25 Sep 2010 00:13 |
Katie, Rosalind had more than one daughter.
Marriages Dec 1897 BYLES Charles Edward Eton 3a 1250 HAWKER Rosalind Eton 3a 1250 JOSEY Elizabeth Eton 3a 1250 Whitehouse Robert Henry Eton 3a 1250
1911 BYLES CHARLES EDWARD M 1874 37 Wandsworth London BYLES ROSALINDA F 1868 43 Wandsworth London BYLES IRENE MARGARET F 1900 11 Wandsworth London BYLES EDITH MARIAN HAWKER F 1903 8 Wandsworth London BYLES ROSALINA MORWENNA F 1905 6 Wandsworth London
Births Jun 1899 Byles Irene Margaret Holborn 1b 671
Births Sep 1902 Byles Edith Marian H Cambridge 3b 475
Births Mar 1905 Byles Rosalind Morwenna Brentford 3a 178
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Vanessa
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25 Sep 2010 00:18 |
It is such an unusual name and the same middle initial that it makes it almost definitely her!
I cant find a death under Tillbrook or another marriage either??
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Vanessa
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25 Sep 2010 00:21 |
Here are all the deaths for a Morwenna 1922-1945, I would be particularly interested in the Sept 1932 registration;
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lilley Morwenna A 28 Bideford 5b 792
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1932 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mabbott Morwenna 68 Penzance 5c 231
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1934 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Morwenna 0 Bangor 11b 490
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1935 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Davis Morwenna 1 Bristol 6a 30
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1937 (97%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Morwenna M 41 Plymouth 5b 429
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Jun 1938 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory Morwenna B 2 Aldershot 2c 226
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1944 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dixon Morwenna H 63 Upper Agbrigg 9a 389
Obviously the young children can be discounted.
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25 Sep 2010 00:23 |
The only births for Tillbrook in Devon (1929 and 1932 )have maiden name Coombe.
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Katie
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25 Sep 2010 00:27 |
Have just checked 1911 for Morwenna Mabbott but that rules her out.
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GlitterBaby
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25 Sep 2010 00:29 |
Just for info
Name: Morwena P Tillbrook Death Registration Month/Year: 1926 Age at death (estimated): 26 Registration district: Newton Abbot Inferred County: Devonshire Volume: 5b Page: 192
So probably rules out the Mitchell/Tillbrook marriage
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AnnCardiff
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25 Sep 2010 00:29 |
have you noticed there is a Linda Hawker with Morwenna at St Mary's Priory
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Vanessa
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25 Sep 2010 00:33 |
Hi Glitter Baby
Just questioning your death posting as we have Morwenna being born ca 1865 and the death says 26? Although if it has been mistranscribed age 62 would be about right?
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Katie
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25 Sep 2010 00:34 |
Yes - I presume she is her sister Rosalind/a
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GlitterBaby
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25 Sep 2010 00:34 |
Vanessa
I was just checking out the earlier posting of a possible marriage
Marriages Jun 1922 Jackman Gladys M Wilson Exeter 5b 236 MITCHELL Morwenna P Tillbrook Exeter 5b 236 TILLBROOK Henry M Mitchell Exeter 5b 236 WILSON Reginald J Jackman Exeter 5b 236
So ruled it out
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Vanessa
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25 Sep 2010 00:38 |
Bit of a puzzle this one isnt it! Likewise, adding options to rule them out - or otherwise if we are lucky :0)
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