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Colette
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30 Mar 2009 20:02 |
Hi all im trying to find my Great grandparents details, Wedding, Birth anything. Also whether they had more children together than just my grandad.
My Grandad passed away while my father was young so my father does not remember any of his relations as after the funeral he never saw then again.
The details I have so far is my Grandads birth cert he was born on the 25th January 1916 at 123 Old church road.
His parents were called George william Harvey and Annie Louisa Pleasants.
They lived in Mile end old town according to my granddads marriage and birth cert.
Im trying to get the info so I can persue and get my great grandads wedding cert birth cert so i can again look back further.
Any info is greatly appreciated Thanks in Advance Colette
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Colette
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30 Mar 2009 20:04 |
Sorry forgot to add I dont have a exact date of birth for either of my great grand parents but their son Walter (my grandad) was born in 1916
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Lindsey*
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30 Mar 2009 20:08 |
Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) Harvey George William Bethnal G. 1c 338 Pleasants Annie Louisa Bethnal G. 1c 338
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Colette
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30 Mar 2009 20:10 |
I have found in the 1901 census a few details but im not sure if these are the correct person, it only draws me in as its the same area i have been looking at.
1901 Census Address 39 Carlton Road Mile end old town
Head; Edgar Harvey age 47 Wife; Sarah Harvey age 49 Daughter Elizabeth Harvey age 27 Daughter Emma Harvey age 25 Son George Harvey age 19 Daughter Lilan Harvey age 15 Son Arthur A Harvey age 13
But like I said this could be nothing to do with my great grandfather
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Colette
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30 Mar 2009 20:11 |
Thanks a million Lindsey I had only gone back as far as 1901 :):)
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EVEIE
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30 Mar 2009 20:17 |
George William Harvey Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Dec 1878 Christening Place: Westminster, London, England Father's Name: George Harvey Mother's Name: Elizabeth
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EVEIE
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30 Mar 2009 20:19 |
found this Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1914 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harvey Hannah M Pleasants Mile End 1c 757
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harvey Walter J Pleasants Mile End 1c 659
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EVEIE
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30 Mar 2009 20:21 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Berry Mirah Muir Bethnal G. 1c 338 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Harvey George William Bethnal G. 1c 338 Phillips Isaac Bethnal Green 1c 338 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Annie Louisa Bethnal G. 1c 338
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EVEIE
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30 Mar 2009 20:26 |
only louisa pleasant i can find Births Mar 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASANT Louisa Bethnal Green 1c 289
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EVEIE
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30 Mar 2009 20:33 |
Births Jun 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harvey George William Bethnal Green 1c 245
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Colette
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30 Mar 2009 20:35 |
Thanks very much jean.
Will send off for the marriage cert and the birth cert now, s i can delve deeper into the parent of george (George and Elizabeth) to find out more about them. when they was married and whether Hannah and George were the only children or not :):)
Just re read the posts and the christening and the birth dont match for George as it says he was christened in 1878 and born in 1882
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30 Mar 2009 20:45 |
What was your gtgrandfather's occupation? I'm seeing a HARVEY family in 1901 who appear to be living with some PLEASANT(s). Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 328; Folio: 98; Page: 19.
Maureen
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Colette
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30 Mar 2009 20:47 |
My Grandfather Walter was a demolision Worker
My Great Grandfather was a ship worker
Hope that helps
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Colette
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1 Apr 2009 21:01 |
I cant find George and Annie Harvey on the 1901 census................... with the response i have so far they was married in 1894 so they should both be on the census together and as Harvey.................... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
thanks Colette
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1 Apr 2009 22:11 |
1901 England Census about Annie L Harvey Name: Annie L Harvey Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George W Gender: Female Where born: Westley, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Clapham Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub registration district: Clapham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age George W Harvey 24 Nothumberland Annie L Harvey 31cambridge
This would make her 47 when she had Walter. ????
1911 HARVEY, GEORGE WILLIAM HEAD MARRIED M 34 ASSISTANT TURNCOCK BENWELL NORTHUMBERLAND HARVEY, ANNIE LOUISA WIFE MARRIED 10 F 41 WESTON CAMBRIDGE HARVEY, DOUGLAS GEORGE SAUL SON M 9 SCHOOL CLAPHAM SURRY
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Colette
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2 Apr 2009 07:30 |
Yeah it would make her pretty old Im just gonna have to wait until their wedding cert comes and maybe i can find out more that way
Thanks a million
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Dea
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2 Apr 2009 09:06 |
This would seem to be Annie on 1891:
at 34 Old Church Road !!
1891 England Census about Annie Pleasant Name: Annie Pleasant [Annie Pleasance] Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Walter Mother's Name: Rachel Gender: Female Where born: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Dunstan County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Walter Pleasant 35 Dairy Labr. Rachel Pleasant 32 Annie Pleasant 14 rag sorter b Stepney Walter Pleasant 12 John Pleasant 9 George Pleasant 5 Susan Pleasant 2 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 304; Folio 4; Page 3; GSU roll: 6095414.
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Possible for 1901:
at 69 Heath St.
Annie W Harvey Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age George Harvey 24 Biscuit Packer b Ratcliff, London Annie W Harvey 25 Annie Harvey 6 Jane Harvey 3 Mary Harvey 2 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 328; Folio: 98; Page: 19.
Annie's middle initial does look like 'W' but.............
ALSO LIVING WITH THEM:
Mrs. Pleasant abt 1832 Colchester, Essex, England Head Mile End Old Town, London Robert Pleasant abt 1853 Essex, England Son Mile End Old Town, London ...............
Working back from the above info - this looks like
George + family in 1891 ??:
at 16 James Place:
George Harvey Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Anna Gender: Male Where born: Ratcliff, London, England Civil Parish: Ratcliff Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Thomas County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Stepney Sub registration district: Ratcliff ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Harvey 33 Housebreaker + Bricklayer b Mile end. Anna Harvey 29 George Harvey 12 Charles Harvey 8 Arthur Harvey 4 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 293; Folio 31; Page 55; GSU roll: 6095403. ................ Floowing forward again to recheck -
George's mother - now a widow - at *** 127 Old Church Road. !!!! 1901:
Hannah Harvey Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Wapping, London, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Stepney Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 221 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Harvey 40 Arthur Harvey 14 Charles Harvey 18 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 328; Folio: 158; Page: 37.
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You will need the certs to confirm, of course, but it all seems to connect.
Dea x
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2 Apr 2009 09:20 |
Haven't paid to view but this looks like them on 1911: - which confirms that the 1901 census is also correct!
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ANNIE LOUSIA F 1895 16 Mile End Old Town London HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ANNIE LOUSIA F 1877 34 Mile End Old Town London HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ARTHUR M 1908 3 Mile End Old Town London HOUSEHOLD HARVEY BABY M 1911 7 DAYS Mile End Old Town London HOUSEHOLD HARVEY GEORGE WILLIAM M 1878 33 Mile End Old Town London HOUSEHOLD HARVEY LOUSIA F 1904 7 Mile End Old Town London HOUSEHOLD HARVEY MARY F 1900 11 Mile End Old Town London 1 Search again
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2 Apr 2009 09:27 |
Looks like 'baby' Harvey probably became George W ?
Births Jun 1911 - must be one of these?? Harvey George W Mile End 1c 368 Harvey Harold H Mile End 1c 438
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2 Apr 2009 09:53 |
Back to Annie !
Parents' marriage seems to have taken place 'after' Annie's birth:
Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BEASLEY Frances Stepney 1c 683 **Merry Rachel Stepney 1c 683 Pipe Sheridan Walter Stepney 1c 683 **Plesant Walter Stepney 1c 683 ..............
This could therefore be 'your Annie?
Births Sep 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MERRY Ann Stepney 1c 404
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