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I'm trying to find the birth, marriage and parents of William Grant 1827.
According to 1881 census, William was born in Kennington, Kent and was married to Mary Smith. I believe his father is named Thomas and was born about 1795, but I can't find where this information came from, as it was passed on to me. Is there anyone who can confirm Thomas as William's father, tell me more about him and who William's mother was. Any help would be gratefully received. Many thanks.

Only a submitted record so could be wrong.

WILLIAM GRANT Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 24 JUN 1827 St Mary'S, Kennington, Kent, England

Parents:
Father: THOMAS GRANT Family
Mother: SARAH


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Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.

According to a tree on Family Search his father was Thomas and he was born in Chilham. On every other census apart from 1841 when he was working in Kennington he says he was born in Ashford.

Just for reference:
1881 England Census
William Grant Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A. Grant Gender: Male
Where born: Kennington, Kent, England Civil Parish: Preston Next Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Copton Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Baliff Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 3

William Grant 54
Mary A. Grant 50
William Grant 29
Fanny Grant 32
Lewis Grant 13

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 968; Folio: 48; Page: 31; GSU roll: 1341230.

When did he marry Mary Smith

This William Grant has a differently named father.

Name: William Grant - occ labourer
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Smith
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1855
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
County: Kent
Borough: Lewisham
>>>Father Name: William Grant - occ upholsterer
Spouse Father Name: William Atkins - occ cooper

Mary was a widow.

EDIT: Now obviously wrong marriage as too late for child in census 1851 - but left posted for elimination purposes.

Marriages Dec 1850
Amos Harriet E Ashford 5 5
Austen Finch E Ashford 5 5
Buesden George E Ashford 5 5
Coleman Emely E. Ashford 5 5
xxx Grant William E Ashford 5 5
Smith Mary E. Ashford 5 5
Smith Mary Ann E. Ashford 5 5

Get the marriage certificate for Father's name.

Possibly wrong marriage, from age of child in 1851?
1851 England Census
William Grant
Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Grant Gender: M (Male) Where born: Ashford, Kent, England Civil Parish: Oare County/Island: Kent
Country: England Street address: court lodge farm
Occupation: ag lab Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Boughton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 80

William Grant 23
Mary Grant 19
Frances Grant 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1626; Folio: 443; Page: 27; GSU roll: 193527.

Marriage looks quite good Patchem, especially Mary Ann Smith - could child belong to Mary Ann pre marriage and have been adopted by William?

Thank you for all your help guys. This looks helpful, but I'll have to look at it in more detail in about half hour, as I'm just about to serve tea. Will comment further when I have a chance to study further :0)

Things aren't as clear cut as I hoped! Do you think Frances Grant age 2 is the same Fanny from 1881 census then? If so and the marriage date to Mary Ann is correct, then I suppose it's possible that Frances/Fanny was originally born out of wedlock to William and Mary.
I will try and get hold of the marriage certificate Patchem - but I'm a little confused at the 5 5 reference. I'm assuming it means vol 5 page 5 - is that right? And could you please advise me on where to look for the certificate - would it be Ashford registry office or would I have to apply to Kent County records?
Thanks again everyone. If I can verify Thomas as the father, can anyone find who he married?

Get certs online from url below for £9.25. Takes about a week. Other sites can charge a lot more, so use this official site.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Yes, 5 5 was vol and page no.

Thank you!

I have managed to find out from a family connection about the marriage of William and Mary, as they have a copy of the marriage certificate. Thomas is named as the father and Thomas Smith is named as Mary's father. However, I just can not seem to trace him in the census records. I have however found a William living with his mother Sarah in Lambeth Kennington in 1841 census. There was no mention of Thomas. Could this mean he was away or dead by then? If he was dead, then maybe that's why I can't trace him anywhere. Can anyone help out here please?

Does it say whether Thomas is deceased on the marriage certificate?

Good thinking - I don't think it does. There goes that theory then. So either he was away or seperated?

He could still be dead, and just not recorded as such.

Ok, now I'm really confused :9( I've just been informed that Sarah died and was buried 1833 and Thomas remarried Frances Epps. So I presume the Sarah Grant and son William in 1841 must be someone else. Back to the drawing board I suppose. I now need to find a marriage around 1837. Trouble is unless someone can help me out, it will unfortunately have to wait, because I've now used up all my credits! Thank you for your help with this though Patchem xx

Frances Grant
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: Kennington
Hundred: Lathe of Scray Chart and Longbridge
County/Island: Kent
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Grant 40
Frances Grant 29
Henry Grant 12
Richard Grant 8
George Grant 3
Emma Grant 1


1851

Thomas Grant
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances Grant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Portsmouth, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Ashford
County/Island: Kent
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Grant 65 >>>>>Labourer
Frances Grant 40
Henry Grant 21
Richard Grant 19
George Grant 13
Emma Grant 11
Rachel Grant 9
Frederick Grant 6
Louisa Grant 4

On the IGI there is an extracted baptism record for Louisa and several submitted records for some of the others that people have added but nothing for William with father Thomas.

This is William's death

Deaths Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Grant William 62 E. Ashford 2a 440

William born 1852 was Baptised William Thomas which gives us the link back to William Senior's father maybe!

Name: William Thomas Grant
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Jul 1851
Baptism/Christening Place: Oare, Kent, England
Father's Name: William Grant
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00536-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1835535
Reference Number: item 4 p 39