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Trying to find birth certificate of Aubrey Kemp son of Grace,orRosalyn orRosalind Kemp. Not sure of first name but one of three. She married after Aubrey was born and had 3 more children probably in the 1920's - 1930's in London.
Her father was Sydney Kemp and Sarah Thurgood. Would also like to find her marriage certificate.
Many thanks,
Libby

would this be the right family on the 1901 census
Name: Sydney Kemp
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Blenheim Grove
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:49 blenheim grove

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 267
Household Members: Name Age
Sydney Kemp 35 occ Wine & spirit seller
Sarah Kemp 36
Grace Kemp 12 >>>>>>>>>
Robert Kemp 10
Bessie Kemp 8
Caroline Kemp 6
Sydney C Kemp 3



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 504; Folio: 52; Page: 41.

theres no Aubrey Kemp mmn Kemp coming up on births are you sure he was Aubrey?

PM recd from Libby

Fantastic, This is the right family. Can you find out about Grace Kemps child Aubrey? She had three more children after she married. She did not marry Aubreys father.

do you have any idea who she married or any of her other childrens names .Did they stay in the Camberwell area/

Lokks like you are right with the Rosalind connection as this looks like her birth
Name: Grace Rosalind Kemp
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 888

and the only Grace R Kemp marriage coming up for that period
Name: Grace R Kemp
Spouse Surname: Thompson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923
Registration district: Hackney
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1097
spouse Frank Thompson

PM from Libby

This is exciting!! Her illegitimate child might not have been called Aubrey. If you could check please to see if any child born to Grace Kemp was illegitimate. Any name. Her three children apparently all married on the same day at the same church in London. This probably took place around 1939 - 1945. Her children were Ronald ( Ronnie), Vera married an American soldier and Muriel. hope that helps.

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Unfortunately the records dont show the mums christian name only the surname .I have looked for Kemp with mums maiden name Kemp and there are many coming up , Do you have any idea of when she had the child AND was it still in Camberwell , Pre 1911 ther mmn doesnt show on the birth GRO record. Have you looked for her on the 1911 census

1911 Census Household Transcript

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
BUTLER, ELEANOR HEAD SINGLE F 78 NO OCCUPATION PRIVATE MEANS BERMONDSEY SURREY
WEDGWOOD, MARY JEAN COOK SINGLE F 35 COOK DOMESTIC HIGH JEATON CUMBERLAND
KEMP, GRACE ROSALIND PALOURMAID SINGLE F 22 PARLOURMAID DOMESTIC PECKHAM SURREY


KEMP GRACE ROSALIND (RG14PN2508 RG78PN84 RD27 SD3 ED24 SN310)
Address 4 WINDSOR ROAD CAMBERWELL County London
District Camberwell Subdistrict Camberwell North
Enumeration District 24 Parish Camberwell

PM
Is it possible to find Grace R. Kemps death certificate. One of her children may have registered the death. Possibly still in London

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Hi
Would need to know her married surname for that Plus if she died pre 1983 then these deaths arent transcribed yet so you have to search by the year and quarter.
Still having problems locating who she might have married Have found births for the names you gave reg in Lambeth & Camberwell these are reg as Smith with mmn Kemp BUT there's no Grace Kemp marrying a Smith coming up .

is this a possibilty
Name: Edmund C Kemp
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Kemp
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1426

PM
She may have been married twice? Could have married a Frank Thompson? Do you have the birth dates of her children please?

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gave you the marriage for Frank Thompson on the thread. however theres no births for any of the childrens names as Thompson mmn Kemp
Shirley

please reply on the thread .


PM
No I don't think there was an Edmund C Kemp

PM
There are so many messages now I am getting confused!!!! . The childrens births of the names I gave you may well be the right ones under the name of Smith. Could you possibly post the dates so I can check. Thank

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Will post them on the thread
to answer go to the top of the thread and click the mauve reply button

births found

Name: Ronald C B Smith
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kemp
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1922
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 574


Name: Vera E G Smith
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kemp
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1924
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1244


Name: Muriel K Smith
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kemp
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1926
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 613


But not found a Grace Kemp /Smith marriage to tie theses births to

Pm recd

Shirley,
Thank you so much for all your help.
Libby

Marriages to match the births found:

Ronald C B Smith............ Annie E Court
Watford
4th qtr 1945
vol 3a page 2290

Muriel K C Smith............. Edward E Collins
Watford
4th qtr 1945
vol 3a page 3390

Vera E G Smith...........Hershal W Phelps
Watford
4th qtr 1945
vol 3a page 3389


Brenda

Sorry to butt in but I have found this interesting and found this if it may help.??
Prob way off but then again??




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Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Hunt William A Kemp Chorlton 8c 1601
KEMP Grace R Hunt Chorlton 8c 1601

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Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Hunt Grace R Smith Lambeth 1d 917
Smith Archibald C Hunt Lambeth 1d 917

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No births of Hunt/Kemp in Chorlton,but there is this.

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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HUNT HUBERT A C KEMP Lambeth 1d 797


Maybe the A stands for Aubrey?

Just found the same one but you beat me to it!

Sorry Moodyblue,Ill go and play elsewhere and let you get on with it;)

viv

Nooooooooooo.......dont go ! Didn't mean it that way! Please come and play! I think that you are on to something here!

Ok..
Been off to check for the 1919 marriage on Ancestry as they go to 1921?
I cant see it at all,maybe they dont have Lambeth on there as that comes under Surrey I think.
Blast.