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Steven

Steven Report 19 Aug 2010 17:11

I have a Benjamin Duff b1851 in Dudley who married a Clara H or W (original picture is not clear) in 1974. (I think) Anyway, they lived in Bristol and thier children are the same.
I would love to find her parents to complete a whole generation in my tree.
I'm hoping someone out there might know some loophole, or another list which might divulge this information.
The only marraige I can find for Benjamin does not list his wifes name.
Thank you
Steve

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Aug 2010 17:14

That's one **** of an age !

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Aug 2010 17:16

Assume you meant 1874


Marriages Mar 1874

************Duff Benjamin Bristol 6a 122
************Groves Clara Harriett Bristol 6a 122
Hucker Ellen Bristol 6a 122
Irwin George Bristol 6a 122


The certificate would give you the father's names and occupations.

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Aug 2010 17:19

For reference

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Household: 1881


Benjamin DUFF Head M Male 29 Dudley, Stafford, England Labourer (Iron Works)
Clara DUFF Wife M Female 26 Bristol
Ada Mary DUFF Dau U Female 6 Bristol
Florance Eliza DUFF Dau Female 2 Bristol


:
Dwelling 11 Barton Place
Census Place Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucester, England

Steven

Steven Report 19 Aug 2010 17:19

Hello Michael,
Yep, we all have very long lives in our family, and we never ,ever ,make typos

Steven

Steven Report 19 Aug 2010 17:21

Hello Michael,
Thank you very much. A great help
Steve

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Aug 2010 17:22

This could be his birth certificate (if he lied about his age on census...)

Births Dec 1850

Duff Benjamin - Dudley - 18 262

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Aug 2010 17:23

Births Jun 1855

Groves Clara Harriet - Clifton 6a 109

Steven

Steven Report 19 Aug 2010 17:34

Interesting that you mention that he may have lied about his age on census.
Why would he want to do that?
I can see that he might if there was anything to gain from it , but what?

Steve

Steven

Steven Report 8 Sep 2010 17:25

Hello again,
I have found Benjamins (b1850) family on the 1851 census.
Could anyone help me further with any information on his father, also called Benjamin born circa 1812.
Benjamin senior married Elizabeth b1814.
Thanks

Steven

Steven Report 8 Sep 2010 18:24

It seems none of you can find anything further.
Thanks to all of you that have tried on my behalf.

jax

jax Report 8 Sep 2010 18:54

Cannot understand why you have now posted on Jacquelines look up thread?

The rules are one post per family/person

jax

Steven

Steven Report 8 Sep 2010 19:03

In all good faith I thought that after having no replies for some time either no one could find anything or no one was interested in helping on this thread.
This lady is offering help, and I did explain that I had another thread, and that I had had no replies.
You were very fast in posting, well done, and thank you for pointing the rules out to me.

jax

jax Report 8 Sep 2010 19:16

We all help if we can, if you hav'nt had any replies just add something to the bottom of the thread like 'n' and it will go to the top again

jax

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Sep 2010 19:21

As I've pointed out in Jacqueline's thread, you have access to the same free resources on line as we have.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

Benjamin Jr was born in Dudley per the census.

A search there for a Benjamin Duff marriage to an Elizabeth finds:

Groom's Name: Benjamin Duff
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Sparrow
Marriage Date: 01 May 1831
Marriage Place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973


Perhaps a reasonable candidate to investigate.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Sep 2010 19:25

He didn't necessarily lie about his age on the census, he was just vague.


1851

Name: Benjm Duff
Age: 6 MO
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjn Duff
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Duff
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley

Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Staffordshire

Benjn Duff 39 - born Dudley, bricklayer
Elizabeth Duff 37 - born Boverton (?)
Thomas Duff 15
Eliza Duff 12
James Duff 10
Emily Duff 4
David Duff 2
Benjm Duff 6 MO


If you search at pilot.familysearch you will find an Elizabeth Sparrow baptised Feb 1814 in Kinver/Kinfare, Staffordshire.

Steven

Steven Report 8 Sep 2010 19:29

Thanks for the advice..
The last post, previous to today was on the 19th August.
I added to the post today at 17:25 and had no replies after an hour.
I then added another post thanking anyone who might have tried on my behalf.
I saw the offer of help, and asked for it, explaining that I had had no replies on my thread.
You only took seconds to post and tell me of the rules, and many others have made replies in only a few minuites. People on here are normally very quick.
How long do think a post on a thread asking for further help should be left before updating?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Sep 2010 20:50

Well ... I think you should do searching yourself. ;)

If you weren't familiar with pilot.familysearch -- there is also the original IGI site --

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp

-- now you are!

If you have access to censuses, you should also check them, like the 1851 I posted. I assume you did, since you had ages for parents Benjamin and Elizabeth, but if so you should post the details so that others don't have to go looking for them. For instance the birthplaces for the parents are in the 1851, and the ages of the older children given an idea of when a marriage would have taken place.

I do think an hour is a little much to be expecting. When a thread has had previous replies from several people, it's reasonable for others to think that they will return to it to see what's new, rather than jumping in right away themselves. And the people who had previously posted might not see the addition the same day, even.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Sep 2010 20:52

Oh, and about never ever making typos ...

Proofreading and the Edit function solve that problem.

And not being sarcastic improves your chances of getting help. (The person to whom you were sarcastic had already gone ahead and found info relating to your request.)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Sep 2010 21:01

For a little more info, the 1841 census household in Dudley is:

Benjn Duff 25
Elizabeth Duff 25
Henry Duff 9

At pilot.familysearch -- search for Henry Duff, parents Benjamin and Elizabeth -- you'll find his baptism in 1832. On a quick glance, I also see a baptism for James in 1841.

So an 1831 marriage for a quite uncommon name, Benjamin Duff, to Elizabeth, in the right neighbourhood, looks like an almost sure bet.