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Linda
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26 Apr 2010 02:00 |
Does anyone have a Captain Robert Davies of Mostyn in their family history. Born around 1802 in Amlwch, Anglesey and died in Mostyn in 1882. His wife was Margaret Davies nee Owen. His son Robert Davies's trustees donated money to build The Robert Davies Memorial Hall in Mostyn around the 1920's. Does this ring a bell?
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JaneyCanuck
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26 Apr 2010 02:06 |
As we always say, the odds of anyone for whom this rings a bell seeing your message are slim to nil. ;)
If you are looking for particular info -- his descendants, ancestors? -- various of us unrelated helpful other members might be able to help, if you say what info it is.
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LadyKira
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26 Apr 2010 02:16 |
1841 census - Address: Galltywanc, Llanrhyddlad DAVIES, Robert M 40 1801 Anglesey DAVIES, Margaret F 35 1806 Anglesey DAVIES, Thomas M 12 1829 Anglesey DAVIES, William M 9 1832 Anglesey DAVIES, Marry F 5 1836 Anglesey DAVIES, Emma F 1 1840 Anglesey
Not so sure on this one as the children do not match
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LadyKira
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26 Apr 2010 02:18 |
1851 census - household transcription Person: DAVIES, Robert Address: Mortyn Quay, Whitford DAVIES, Robert Head Married M 48 1803 Marine Captain Amlwch Anglesey VIEW DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 43 1808 Amlwch Anglesey VIEW DAVIES, Richard Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Amlwch Anglesey VIEW DAVIES, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Amlwch Anglesey VIEW DAVIES, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Amlwch Anglesey VIEW DAVIES, Jane Daughter F 12 1839 Whitford Flintshire VIEW DAVIES, Fanny Daughter F 6 1845 Whitford Flintshire VIEW DAVIES, Anne Daughter F 5 1846 Whitford Flintshire VIEW HOLT, John Bernard Lodger Unmarried M 18 1833 Steam Packet Agent Morter City OF London
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LadyKira
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26 Apr 2010 02:21 |
1871 census - household transcription Person: DAVIES, Robert Address: Mostyn Quay, Whitford DAVIES, Robert Head M 66 1805 Anglesey DAVIES, Margaret Wife F 61 1810 Anglesey DAVIES, Richard Son M 38 1833 Anglesey EVANS, Ellen Daughter F 37 1834 Anglesey
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LadyKira
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26 Apr 2010 02:22 |
1881 census Address: Marsh Row, Whitford DAVIES, Robert Head Married M 77 1804 Retired Sea Captain Amlwch Anglesey Wales DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 72 1809 Amlwch Anglesey Wales DAVIES, Richard Son Single M 51 1830 Sawyer Amlwch Anglesey Wales STOREY, Wm Jno Patrickson Boarder Single M 20 1861 Civil Engineer Lancaster Lancashire WILLIAMS, Maria Servant Single F 16 1865 General Servant (Domestic) Gronant Flintshire Wales
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JaneyCanuck
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26 Apr 2010 02:24 |
I wonder what Linda would like to know / whom she would like to find ...
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LadyKira
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26 Apr 2010 02:27 |
Of interest
http://blogs.chesterchronicle.co.uk/cheshire-memories/2009/12/flintshire-memories-mostyn-clo.html
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LadyKira
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26 Apr 2010 02:30 |
Strange thing is I have a Robert Davies in my tree from a different generation but very nearby and also a mariner.
1881 Address: Chester Road New Weston Terrace, Northop DAVIES, Peter Head Married M 54 1827 Farm Labourer Northop Flintshire Wales DAVIES, Ellen Wife Married F 50 1831 Holywell Flintshire Wales DAVIES, Robert Son Single M 18 1863 Mariner Pentre Flintshire Wales DAVIES, Maurice Son Single M 16 1865 Labourer Pentre Flintshire Wales DAVIES, Richard Francis Son Single M 4 1877 Northop Flintshire Wales WALSH, Patrick Lodger Single M 26 1855 Labourer Mayo Ireland
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Linda
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27 Apr 2010 01:22 |
Hi LadyKira I had found the same one in 1851 and this is the right family
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Linda
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27 Apr 2010 01:25 |
Hi LadyKira I agree I don't feel this is the right one as I had found them in 1841 on HO 107/1407/26 page 25
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Linda
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27 Apr 2010 01:27 |
Yes LadyKira the 1871 and 1881 records are my relations as well
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Linda
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27 Apr 2010 01:39 |
Hi again LadyKira I don't have a Peter Davies in my history as yet, but who knows where I could end up!! Linda
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Linda
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27 Apr 2010 01:50 |
Hi Ladykira Thanks for the web site, that's my bolg with my uncle and a new found relation. We are trying to find out more about the mysterious Robert Davies, son of Captain Robert Davies. I have found him in the 1881 census as a visitor and it says he was born in 1843, so he missed the 1841 census and all the others until 1881. He was shipped off to boarding school presumably before the 1851 census, he went to Ellesmere College and Liverpool College apparently. I guess the school would have recorded the students on the census nights so how do you find them? Can you or anyone help? Thanks Linda
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Linda
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27 Apr 2010 02:01 |
Hello Jane Yes I know the odds are against me finding a relation, but you never know unless you try I guess. At present I am just looking for descendants because there are lots of gaps. Have a look at one of my replies to LadyKira as to what help I am looking for. In the 1881 census Robert was with a Benjamin Littler and his wife Mary and Benjamin turns up again in 1882 with Robert in some Probate records for the Captain, so I thought, OK Littler is a little more unusual so maybe he lodged with them earlier but I had no luck finding them in earlier census's. He is a mystery but maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.
Thanks Linda
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LadyKira
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27 Apr 2010 22:32 |
1881 census - Address: Brighton Rd Bodhyfryd, Rhuddlan (Flint) LITTLER, Benjamin Head Married M 60 1821 Miller & Merchant Holywell Flintshire Wales LITTLER, Mary Wife Married F 68 1813 Llangainwen Anglesey Wales BUCKINGHAM, C Littler Grandchild Single F 5 1876 Rhyl Flintshire Wales ROBERTS, Elizabeth A Servant Single F 23 1858 Nursemaid Domestic Liverpool Denbighshire Wales JONES, Hannah Servant Single F 25 1856 Cook Domestic Llanaliand Denbighshire Wales DAVIES, Robert Visitor Single M 38 1843 Shipowner Mostyn Flintshire Wales
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LadyKira
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27 Apr 2010 22:47 |
1861 census - household transcription Person: DAVIES, Richard Address: Mostyn Quay, Picton DAVIES, Margaret Head Married F 51 1810 Wife Of Master Mariner Amlwch Anglesey VIEW DAVIES, Richard Son Unmarried M 31 1830 Joiner Amlwch Anglesey
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LadyKira
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27 Apr 2010 22:51 |
1891 census - Address: Mostyn Quay, Whitford, Mostyn DAVIES, Richard Head Single M 62 1829 Retired Joiner Amlwch Anglesey RICHARDS, Margaret Sister Widow F 56 1835 Lodging House Keeper Amlwch Anglesey RICHARDS, Robert Davies Nephew Single M 30 1861 Living On Own Means Imbecile Chester Cheshire RICHARDS, Isabel Niece Single F 18 1873 Living On Own Means
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LadyKira
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27 Apr 2010 23:06 |
This one is interesting as with grandparents
1851 census - household transcription Person: DAVIES, Robert Address: Kings Bench DAVIES, David Head Married M 63 1788 Shoemaker Holywell Flintshire DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 62 1789 Conway Carnarvonshire DAVIES, Ruth Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Whitford Flintshire DAVIES, Robert Grand Son M 8 1843 Scholar Whitford Flintshire MEREDITH, Ann Visitor Married F 75 1776 Llansannan Denbighshire
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JaneyCanuck
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28 Apr 2010 00:15 |
Well, speaking of odds and unusuals - my grandmother was a Littler. ;)
I've noticed these Wales Littlers in the past. Mine are Leicestershire, presumed to be from the common Cheshire root, but still with the missing link.
1881 in Rhuddlan, Flintshire
Benjamin Littler 60 - born Holywell, miller & merchant Mary Littler 68 C. Littler Buckingham 5 Elizabeth A. Roberts 23 Hannah Jones 25 Robert Davies 38 - born Mostyn, shipowner
There are Littlers in the censuses born in Mostyn in the 1860s. And yet no Littlers *in* Mostyn. Benjamin Littler and family were in Greenfield in 1851. I assume that's not far off?
There is a Benjamin in Manchester in 1891 born 1863 in Mostyn. Son/grson of Benjamin 1821? And there are other possible children.
There are also women who are Littlers by marriage who were born in Mostyn, whose husbands weren't , interestingly.
Benjamin is a miller in Uchglan Cwm in 1841 and is in Greenfield with his family in 1851. But nowhere in 1861 and 1871.
Yeah, here we are, the dreaded mistranscription hit them in both 61 and 71.
1861 Abergele Benjamin Sittler 38 Mary Sittler 44 Emma Blinestone 20 (daughter Mary from 1851 not present)
1871 Ryl Benjamin Sittler 48 Mary Sittler 56 Mary Jane Sittler 32 Ellen Williams 23 Mary Williams 20 Owen Williams 23
Phew. But no Robert Davies present.
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