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I doubt very much much if he would interview. It was a struggle for him to remember some things as his health is poor so I cannot be 100% sure of reliability. I was just amazed at what casual conversation could bring up.

Thanks for the Richard Coleman clarification. The names did not seem to add up.

Isabella Rose Trice born 1904 (date of birth 1 January?). Died 3/3/1943 Bethnal Green Tube Shelter Accident.

Wife of Fredrick Trice; mother of Beryl 1937 and Patricia 1940. Address 42 Wessex St.
Daughter of Isaac Lazarus 7/7/1881; died 2 October 1918 France, WW1 casualty and Florence Hurley 1883-1937

Siblings:
Winnefred; Thomas;Edith; Eileen; Kathleen; Teresa; Albert & Albert.

Hope this is useful.

Regards
Sue Lazarus

Ann, you have Elizabeth in your undone list, i did this a few days ago has it been missed??

I have looked again and it's going to be almost impossible to identify the correct Alexander Fletcher remarrying.


T xx



Wayne/Tracey 14th March 2009 15:35 Request review
Working on ELIZABETH FLETCHER

According to CWGC fathers name James Ridley, this is the parents marriage.

Marriages Dec 1914
Dulwich Mabel E Ridley Bethnal G. 1c 266
RIDLEY James Dulwich Bethnal G. 1c 266

Elizabeth's birth...

Mar 1915 Ridley Elizabeth M A >> Dulwich Bethnal G. 1c 212

Her marriage

Dec 1937 Alexander Fletcher, Bethnal Green, 1c 280.

Looking for children now.

Tracey x

EDIT:

Struggling to find any children for this one, and she does not appear on any tree's yet that i can see.

T x

We also have Emily Higginson on the to be done list and this was done a few days ago?

EvieBeavie 14th March 2009 02:53 Request review
Emily Higginson
62, Wife of John Ashworth Higginson, of 10 Seabright Street.

Marriages Jun 1909
BARRETT Emily Bethnal G. 1c 346
HIGGINSON John Bethnal G. 1c 346

Births Dec 1878
Higginson John Ashworth Shoreditch 1c 115

Good b*y luck to me on Emily Barrett ...

1911: HIGGINSON JOHN M 1911 1 MONTH West Ham Essex

Births Sep 1913
Higginson Frederick J Barrett Bethnal G. 1c 252

Births Mar 1911
Higginson John A W. Ham 4a 397 << probably
Higginson John H W. Ham 4a 52

A couple of matches in trees look good, I'll just store this here and PM the tree owners tomorrow.

Another one on the to be done list thats already been done.... Not a great deal more we can do on this one without more data...

However i am going to look thru ancestry with a death date and name and see what that finds :-)

T x

Wayne/Tracey 15th March 2009 19:11 Request review
GEORGE FRANCIS REYNOLDS

Dec 1869 Reynolds George Francis W. Derby 8b 425
of 289 Cambridge Heath Road. In Tube Shelter accident. BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Marriage:
Marriages Dec 1902
Corner Frederick William C Liverpool 8b 313
Pedro Evelyn Gertrude Liverpool 8b 313
Reynolds Ethel Liverpool 8b 313
Reynolds George Francis Liverpool 8b 313

Cannot find anything on any trees, there is no spousal data or children listed on CWGC.


Tracey x

Ok called Bank Croft Library for George Reynolds.

He was living at 289 Cambridge Heath Road, London. Sadly it appears he was a lodger.

There are no records from 1940 to 44, this data is from 1939, he was living with 3 unrelated people.

I cannot also find him via a death on any tree, so we are stuck and back to square one.


Tracey x

I have just upgraded my membership to Curious Fox. I will put out a geographical message and then post on all the individual names. Anyone will be able to reply to me direct. I will then pass on the relevant information.

They would only allow me to add the one post so I could not add the research done on here to add maiden names,spelling variations etc. However it may get some attention.

Hi all,
I did Emily Higginson, pm'd Joan Dixon who is her great niece, she said she will email Anna directly. Also pm'd Raymond Higginson but no reply yet.
All info forwarded to Anna.

regards Deborah

That's a great idea Christine! Tell us where to find it?

-- just did. At curiousfox.org.uk, search for town or village "bethnal green", it's top of the list.


Higginson ... I must have got half-way through that one and wandered ...

I have a horribly busy week on.

If anybody wants to copy the master list into a new post with updates, please do!!

I've heard from a distant rellie of Jessie (Sharman) Asser, who did know the details of the disaster and her death.

(Good grief, I just looked at my inbox and realized I have a PM from Pauline Fowler! Not about this, just the usual TTF. I'm afraid to open it. ;) )

FYI

Fletcher

FLETCHER, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 3
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: of 334 Corfield Street. Son of Alexander Fletcher (H.M. Forces), and of Elizabeth Fletcher. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead

PAPWORTH

another contact
(Janice I think you are in contact with Sue about the Papworth's)
I have opened the tree for Trevor.

From Trevor
I have Henry Papworth in my tree and his wife Rosina who died in the Tube disaster. I have also been told that their daughter aged 4 was found on a park bench. Can you tell me any more about them or open your tree for me please.

Regards.

Trevor

Re Papworth,
I had contacted both Sue and Trevor but i am not sure that they are in contact with each other. Will p.m them to check the name on "search trees" so they can contact each other if they want.
I have also heard from Heather re Maud Branch. She didn't think i had the right connection to her family but i have expained my findings to her and now wait to see if she gets back to me.
She has said that her cousin Iris May Perryment died in the Disaster. It has got family found for her .If Heather gets back to me and i have found the right link then Maud's mother and i think Iris's grandfather were brother and sister. Will update when confirmed

I have just had a message from Curious Fox. They are trying to work out if they can build a page for the Disaster as well as keep a general message on the Bethnal Green page. They will also be able to arrange surname links. They are just working on the logistics.

Wow, Christine, that sounds great!! I've never heard of Curious Fox but will certainly go and investigate now.

Thank you for that, I'm really glad this subject has inspired so many of you, Sandra the secretary of the Trust is amazed and delighted too.

I will try to collate what you've done so far and show it to her on Sunday.

There's a showing of the film ‘It’s A Lovely Day Tomorrow’ (a 1970s film about the disaster) at 2.30 p.m. Sunday 22nd March 2009 at The Jewish East End Celebration Society, Oxford House, Derbyshire Street. (just off Bethnal Green Road) if anyone's interested.

Tickets are £15 each to include the tea and an old time sing song and can be purchased from Clive Bettington on 07941 367 882 ( c.bettington @ jeecs . org . uk ) or W. English & Sons, 464A Bethnal Green Road.

If I've missed any questions guys I'm sorry I've not had much time to come online so please PM me or re-post or be patient, I'll get to read thoroughly on Saturday evening all being well, I'm working til then.

Anna.x

The advantage of Curious Fox is that you can search for surnames or places. I often find I get matches when I search for XXXXXX genealogy or XXXXXXX at Place so anyone searching our surnames or Bethnal Green should find it. You can be a free member and leave posts or a paid member and contact people. It was only £5 so well worth it.

Just seen the Curious Fox Bethnal Green Disaster page Christine. Thanks again, it's great!
Anna.x
Bed beckons, no rest for the wicked...well not til Sunday anyway.

Very excellent, Christine.

Here's the direct link to the entry.

http://www.curiousfox.com/uk/r.lasso?vid=13459

I've done the updates that I have received to date, if you notice anything that I have missed then please let me know.

I have also loaded the tree onto ancestry so if anyone would like access then Pm me with your ancestry user name
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/fhs/home.aspx?tid=10331512&pg=42

I've opened the tree on GR and sent PM to:-

ASSER / SHARMAN family
GR members James Asser, Jaqui , Janice , Andrew

DONGREY / FOWLS

GR members Peter , Ann *, James
(*has Norman Fowls in her tree)

FLETCHER family

GR member Gordon

SEAR / WILLIS family

GR members Jocelyn , John , Warren , Mary

PAPWORTH

GR member Trevor (putting him contact with Sue)

CHAPMAN / SHOCkLEDGE

GR members Carole , Kathleen

COLLETT / FROGGITT

GR member Greg

LAZARUS

GR member Susan

Victoria - I think it's best not to put GR members' full names in the thread. Yes, they're mainly accessible by doing tree searches, but that's not quite the same thing as putting names on the boards. We didn't tell them when we PMed them that we'd be doing that.

Anybody else who has, too -- first names, maybe, but edit out surnames?

I'm afraid there may be some duplicating going on. I had already sent messages to all of those names about the Asser family, for instance, and have had correspondence with one (who had more information than we have about the family's connection with the disaster). I apologize if I had not yet passed on the info about the reply, this is a horribly busy (and stressful) week for me. That person has been in touch with others to pass on the info and provided me with another contact yesterday that I will pass on to Anna today. Ah, but maybe I'm misunderstanding, and your PMs were just tree-opening messages.

Anna -- for showing Sandra -- you just need Victoria's spreadsheet, I think! ;)