??? 1841 John Moore Age 25 Estimated Birth Year abt 1816 Gender Male Where born Norfolk, England Civil parish Denver Hundred Clackclose County/Island Norfolk Country England Registration district Downham Sub-registration district Downham Neighbors Piece 754 Book 7 Folio 23 Page number 12 Household Members (Name) Age Anthony Rolfe 45 Elizabeth Rolfe 50 John Moore 25
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In case parents ever living with him -
The 1851 census shows John to not know where he was born, just states under Where Born - Unknown British subject which may well fit with his Father being in the Army. It would suggest a birth overseas perhaps
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Sluice Road, Denver, Downham, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Moore Head Married Male 31 1820 Agricultural labourer - May Ann Moore Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Denver, Norfolk, England Lucy Moore Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Denver, Norfolk, England George Moore Son - Male 7 1844 - Denver, Norfolk, England William Moore Son - Male 5 1846 - Denver, Norfolk, England
By 1861 he is saying East Dereham, Norfolk - MOORES
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Slince Road, Denver, Downham, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Moores Head Married Male 46 1815 Labourer East Dereham, Norfolk, England Mary Ann Moores Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Denver, Norfolk, England George Moores Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Labourer Denver, Norfolk, England Sarah Ann Moores Daughter - Female 9 1852 - Denver, Norfolk, England Ann Rebecca Moores Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Denver, Norfolk, England
and 1871 - born Norwich - MORE
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cross Drove, Hilgay, Downham, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John More Head - Male 53 1818 - Norfolk, England Mary A More Wife - Female 47 1824 - Norfolk, England Sarah More Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Norfolk, England Rebecca A More Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Norfolk, England John More Son - Male 11 1860 - Norfolk, England Susan More Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Norfolk, England Walter More Son - Male 7 1864 - Norfolk, England Henry More Grandson - Male 6 1865 - Norfolk, England Elizabeth M More Granddaughter - Female 1 1870 - Norfolk, England
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This John would have been old enough to be the Father but doesn't mean he is the right one
EDIT - see 1851 census posted below - John (junior) born - ? where, a British subject
You can google which Regiments were in Norfolk around the right time
British Army Service Records Grindleford, Norfolk, Great Britain
First name(s) John Archive reference WO 119 Last name Moore Series Wo 119 - Kilmainham: Pensioners' Discharge Documents, 1783-1822 Birth year 1784 Series title Certificates of Service: Regiments on Irish Establishment Attestation year 1822 Box 0066 Age at attestation years 38 Piece description B 3491 - B 3863 Birth town Grindleford Piece year range 1790-1822 Birth county Norfolk Record Number 360 Birth country England Record set British Army Service Records Regiment Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own) Category Military, armed forces & conflict Discharge corps Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own) Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Document type Discharge Collections from Great Britain, Ireland, UK None Archive The National Archives
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Is this your John? Both said to be OTP - Of this Parish - but doesn't mean they were born there. Have you followed them in census to see where born? Banns read Sep 26th and 3/10 October
Parish marriage record
England Marriages 1538-1973 Denver, Norfolk, England
First name(s) John Spouse's age - Last name Moore Residence Denver, Norfolk, England Name note - County Norfolk Marriage year 1841 Country England Marriage date 12 Oct 1841 Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Marriage place Denver Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Subcategory Parish Marriages Spouse's last name Barrett Collections from England, Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
John made his mark and Mary Ann signed. Witnesses - Thomas Johnson (x) and Mary Ann (?J)arman -signed
Do you have the actual marriage certificate - can you give all the details - ages, occupations etc
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I have a marriage certificate for my 4times Grandfather John Moore, it states his father was also John Moore and that he is a soldier. The marriage took place in Denver Norfolk. Any suggestions as to how I can follow up on this ? Was there a army presence in Norfolk at this time ? (1841 )
Any help appreciated. Andy Moore
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