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Finding Info on Death of service man

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2022 13:17

A missing person isn't automatically assumed to be dead.

A family member has to apply to have the person declared dead:

https://www.gov.uk/get-declaration-presumed-death

Perhaps that was never done?
If not, there will be no death cert.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jun 2022 13:01

If the application you mention was for a copy of his army record, then I'm sorry to tell you that the £30 fee is non-refundable.

"Fees
It costs £30 to apply for each record, which is non-refundable. The fee covers research and administrative costs."
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records


Glenise

Glenise Report 5 Jun 2022 12:44

Hi Family been searching for over 50 years for information on Walter Clinton Herbert Known as Clinton to family. He served in South Staffordshire regiment. Births 1st July 1922 Herbert Walter Clinton his mother mother Ruth Kazia ( nee Bower ) father Charles Thomas Herbert. REF: record of birth for Walter Clinton Herbert (Coventry 6d 1221). We Have tried to find a death certificate for him but unable to find one anywhere.
Been in touch with South Staff historians, news papers even MOD waited 2 years for reply but still they not got to my application, after sending numerous emails got a telephone call and a message from MOD
after 2 years waiting


Unfortunately, your application is still in the queue to be actioned. I have however searched for the record on our archives and the only record that is recorded close to the details that you have provided is a WC Herbert army number 4925850 with the date of birth 01/07/1922. This record is no longer held by us but is with the National Archives. If you believe that this is the record that you are looking for I can provide you with the barcode and you can apply direct to them and I will put a note on our database to destroy your application and cheque.

It was postal order I sent so hoping when is finally returned its not worthless and I waisted £30 .

MOD have supplied reference to obtain his records but says I will need death certificate before National Archives will be able to give me information on him . So can someone please tell me where I can get a Death certificate for Walter Clinton Herbert the man who was born and disappeared. I know he was stationed in Lincolnshire

He wrote to his aunt Dorothy on 23rd August 1942 saying he was coming home in two weeks but never arrived home.
This was the last time anyone heard from him.
Walter Clinton Herbert's aunts' daughter Dorothy ( same name as her mother) says that his mum told her mum that his clothes were found on a beach but no sign of him? We do not know how true this is though. If that was case where is record to say this happened as he was serving member of Armed Forces???

The address on his last letter was, Rear Party, 4925850. MT.HQ., 11th S Staffs, Ussleby Hall Camp, Nr Market Rasen, Lincolnshire.

I have researched this and found during the Second World War it was used as a German Officer Prisoner of War Camp.

I do not know if he was stationed there but assume he was.

I cannot find a Death for him registered anywhere I have contacted Newspapers in the Market Rasen area to no avail. I have contacted the Library in Lincolnshire also to no avail. I have also been to search the Archives in Kew but there is nothing on Walter Clinton Herbert anywhere. Must have been before the MoD released his information to National Archives as lady from the Archives was helping me.
This is the reason I am writing maybe someone can shed some light on the conundrum we have been trying to solve.
Many thanks in advance fingers are crossed someone can get info from somewhere