Military Chat

Hi
Trying to find out if James Giles & Michael Giles were brothers.
James was in the 8th Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers, died of his wounds 28th April 1916.
Michael was in the 1st Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers, kia 29th Sept. 1918.
They both seem to appear in the 1901 and 1911 census in Dublin.
I have found their graves.
Thanking you in advance.
Francis



 

For helpers' reference:


Corporal GILES, M
Service Number 18852
Died 29/09/1918
Aged 29
1st Bn.Royal Dublin Fusiliers

Husband of Ellen Giles, of 27, Ormond Cottages, Ormond Market, Dublin.



Private GILES, J
Service Number 22392
Died 28/04/1916
8th Bn.Royal Dublin Fusiliers



James Giles
in the UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929
Name: James Giles
Gender: Male
Death Date: 28 Apr 1916
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Regimental Number: 22392

To whom authorised: Father, John.

If this is Michael in 1901, then his father was also a John, and he did have a brother called James.

Michael Giles
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Michael Giles
Gender: Male
Age: 12
Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Son
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Anne Street North
District: Inns Quay
County: Dublin
Household Members:
Name Age
John Giles 45
Mary Giles 40
Roseanne Giles 14
Julia Giles 1
Edward Giles 8
James Giles 6
George Giles 10
Michael Giles 12


We don't know James's YOB, from the military records.

For what it's worth (not necessarily much) Ancestry seems to think he's the same James.

Birth of Michael's brother James (who may or may not be the one who died in 1916):

SR District/Reg Area - Dublin North
Birth of JAMES GILES in 1895
Name JAMES GILES
Date of Birth 1895
Group Registration ID 9844226
SR District/Reg Area Dublin North
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R


father: John Giles, labourer.
Mother: Mary Giles, nee Whelan.


And Michael:

SR District/Reg Area - Dublin North

Birth of MICHAEL GILES in 1889
Name MICHAEL GILES [ Michael John Giles ]
Date of Birth 1889
Group Registration ID 8432158
SR District/Reg Area Dublin North
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R

Father: John Giles, labourer
Mother: Mary Giles nee Whelan


We need something to give us the DOB of the James who died.
I don't see any army service record for him, however.

Perhaps to save helpers some research and posting, here's another thread about them - but no DOB for James:


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=750538.0

A tree on Ancestry (tree owner Lisa Jane M ) claims that John & Mary's son James born 1895 is the one who died in 1916 - but doesn't provide proof - only the censuses and other records posted above.

I've spoken to Micheal Giles grandsons and they had never known that James Giles
their grand uncle might have been killed in the war.
I think that it looks very likely they were brothers.