We are trying to trace any information regarding my wife's grandfather who has not been traced since about 1953. The details we have are very sparse. Born about 1907 in London, Fathers name William. Married Gwendolyn Saw in 1932 in Aylesbury (Marriage Register Oct/Nov/Dec 1932 Vol 3a page 2593) Served in Royal Artilliary Lance Bombadier, Army No 2299733 in Korea in 1953 Believed to have lost a leg in around 1968. Any information would be appreciated or suggestions if army records can be accessed. Many thanks.
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Welcome to the boards Charles
Sidney and Gwen showing on the 1939 register which gives DOB's
Holland Household (2 People) 60 Camrose Avenue , Harrow U.D., Middlesex, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Sidney D Holland 30 Mar 1907 Male Provision A? Grover Married 41 1 Gwendoline ? (E) Holland (Cabreay) 02 Apr 1911 Female H D Married 41 2
(The name in brackets for Gwen is Colbreay on original, indicating she remarried, possibly 1951 ish or before, but not seeing a marriage in England/Wales. Possibly reverted to Holland 1959 or before. The dates in the margin indicate when the register was altered, not necessarily the date of the event) Her initials are ZE -------------------------------------------
So this looks to be Sidney's death (DOB matched 1939 register) England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) SIDNEY DENNIS Last name HOLLAND Gender Male Birth day 30 Birth month 3 Birth year 1907 Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 1987 District Surrey South Western Register number 887 County Surrey Volume 17 Page 1048
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Have a look here to see how to apply for army records:-
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records
They cost £30 and take quite a while to arrive - possibly months.
Kath. x
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29 Morris Road Poplar E, Poplar Borough, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place William Henry Holland Head Married Male Engineer's Labourer 51 1860 Manchester Lancashire Ruth Elizabeth Holland Daughter Single Female Skirt Machinist 21 1890 Greenwich Charles William Holland Son Single Male Office Boy 15 1896 Greenwich Eleanor Louise Holland Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Greenwich Grace Hilda Holland Daughter - Female - 11 1900 Poplar London Sidney Dennis Holland Son - Male - 4 1907 Poplar
William says he has been married 27 years, had 11 children but 3 have died since birth
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Same family 1901
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 5, Clutton Street, London, Bromley, Poplar, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Henry Holland Head Married Male 42 1859 Dock Labourer Manchester, Lancashire, England Alice Maud Mary Holland Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Chatham, Kent, England Gladys Gwendoline Holland Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Greenwich, Kent, England Ruth Elizabeth Holland Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Greenwich, Kent, England Charles William Holland Son - Male 5 1896 - Greenwich, Kent, England Eleanor Louisa Holland Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Greenwich, Kent, England Hilda Grace Holland Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Poplar, Middlesex, England
--------------------------------- and 1891 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Glenister Road, Greenwich, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William H Holland Head Married Male 32 1859 Retort Door Fitter Gas Works Lancashire, England Alice M M Holland Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Chatham, Kent, England Alice M L Holland Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Ramsgate, Kent, England Gladys G Holland Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Kent, England Edith Holland Daughter Single Female 4 1887 - Kent, England Ruth E Holland Daughter Single Female 1 1890 - Kent, England
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? This marriage (Thanet RD covers Ramsgate where daughter Alice born)
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) HOLLAND William Henry Thanet 2a 1378 <<<<<< KIRBY Alice Maud M Thanet 2a 1378 <<<<<< LEWIS Mary Ann Thanet 2a 1378 Steed Edward Stephen Thanet 2a 1378
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Births/deaths found so far - Children surname Holland, mother's maiden name Kirby
Can be found on - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HOLLAND, ALICE MAUD LILIAN KIRBY GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in THANET Volume 02A Page 930
HOLLAND, GLADYS GWENDOLINE KIRBY GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1072 HOLLAND, EDITH KIRBY GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1101
HOLLAND, RUTH ELIZABETH KIRBY GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1064
HOLLAND, GERTRUDE KIRBY GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1085
HOLLAND, WILLIAM KIRBY GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1168
HOLLAND, CHARLES WILLIAM KIRBY GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1148
Deaths Name: Age at Death (in years) HOLLAND, GERTRUDE 2 GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 693
HOLLAND, WILLIAM 2 GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 600 (birth reg Q1 1893 but could have been born last 6 weeks of 1892)
Haven't found birth reg's for the following as yet but they are on census
Eleanor Louisa 1896/7 - said to be born Greenwich Hilda Grace 1899/1900 - said to be born Poplar Sidney Dennis 1906/7 - said to be born Poplar
That makes only 10 births so far and 2 deaths
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