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15 Jul 2017 12:25 |
Hi Natasha
It would appear that Thomas Joseph McDonagh remarried two years after his wife Mary Ellen died in 1936 and went on to have two more daughters. He married Minnie Raynes (nee Memmott) who was widowed in 1936.
Marriage Sept Q 1938 McDonagh Thomas J Raynes Sheffield 9c 1693 Raynes Minnie McDonagh Sheffield 9c 1693
Births for their daughters
Births Dec 1938 ) McDonagh Patricia (Mother's maiden name Memmott) Sheffield 9c 753
Births Sep 1941 McDonagh Anne ( Mother's maiden name Memmott) Sheffield 9c 1096
Minnie's 1st marriage:
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) Memmott Minnie Raynes Sheffield 9c 850 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rawlins Albert Brown Sheffield 9c 850 Raynes Charles W Memmott Sheffield 9c 850 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth reg for Minnie Memmott: Births Sep 1897 Memmott Minnie Sheffield 9c 548
Birth registrations for children of Minnie Raynes (nee Memmott)
Births Dec 1917 Raynes Reginald W Memmott Sheffield 9c 899 Births Sep 1920 Raynes Charles Memmott Sheffield 9c 1089 Births Sep 1929 Raynes Bessie Memmott Sheffield 9c 791
Possible death forMinnie's 1st husband:
Deaths Dec 1936 Raynes Charles W Aged 45 Sheffield 9c 600
If you look at this 1939 register posted before by safc you can see Minnie listed in the household with Thomas Donagh. Also 2 of Minnie's children from her 1st marriage are recorded below, Charles Raynes and Bessie Edwards (nee Raynes) and Thomas and Minnie's daughter Patricia Heath (nee McDonagh) along with Thomas' daughters from his 1st marriage, Margaret Hill (nee McDonagh) and Dorothy Hague (nee McDonagh)
1939 Register Transcription
McDonagh Household (15 People) 7 Norfolk Road , Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Margaret Hill (Mcdonagh) 12 Jan 1920 Female Packer Pea Factory Single 3 4 Thomas McDonagh 04 Oct 1884 Male A R P Mobile Secretary Married 3 1 Minnie McDonagh 08 Jun 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 3 2 Patricia Heath (Mcdonagh) 12 Oct 1938 Female Infant Single 3 3 Dorothy Hague (Mcdonagh) 01 Aug 1924 Female Sign Writers Apprentice Single 3 5 Audrey G Smedley (Harris) 28 Mar 1920 Female Cabinet Filer E P N ? Single 3 6 Bessie Edwards (Raynes) 18 Jun 1929 Female At School Single 3 7 Charles Raynes 03 Jun 1920 Male Pocket Knife (Cutler) Single 3 8 William J Naylor 22 Jan 1904 Male Engine Fitter (Universal Fitter) Married 3 9 Doris Boates (Naylor) 14 Oct 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 3 10 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Peter Naylor 11 Jan 1935 Male Infant Single 3 12 Marlene Stanley (Naylor) 11 Jan 1935 Female Infant Single 3 13 Brian Naylor 28 Feb 1937 Male Infant Single 3 14 Mabel E Brown 27 Jul 1896 Female Office Cleaner Single 3 15
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13 Jul 2017 16:22 |
Baptism for Ann Swift: Ann Swift England Births and Christenings Name Ann Swift Gender Female Christening Date 17 Aug 1834 Christening Date (Original) 17 AUG 1834 Christening Place STAVELEY,DERBY,ENGLAND Father's Name William Swift Mother's Name Harriet
There is this family in 1841 which could be William, Harriet and children:
Address: Clowne Worksop Derbyshire William Swift Male 32 1809 Derbyshire, England occ: Coal Miner Transcription Harriet Swift Female 35 1806 Derbyshire, England Transcription Mary Swift Female 11 1830 Derbyshire, England Transcription John Swift Male 9 1832 Derbyshire, England Transcription Ann Swift Female 6 1835 Derbyshire, England Transcription Sarah Swift Female 3 1838 Derbyshire, England
then this family in the1851 census:
Address: High Street Sheffield
William Swift Head Married Male 42 1809 Engine Tenter Staveley, Derbyshire, England Transcription Harriot Swift Wife Married Female 45 1806 - Pinxton, Derbyshire, England Transcription Ann Swift Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Metal Rubber Staveley, Derbyshire, England Transcription Sarah Swift Daughter - Female 13 1838 Hair Weaver Staveley, Derbyshire, England Transcription George Swift Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Clowne, Derbyshire, England Transcription
NOTE GEORGE SWIFT BORN CLOWNE
Possible death for Harriet:
Deaths Jun 1854 Swift Harriet Aged 54 Sheffield 9c 194
Then possible 2nd marriage for William:
First name(s) William Last name Swift Age 43 Birth year 1811 Residence High ST<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<same address as 1851 census Marriage year 1854 Marriage date 10 Oct 1854 Marriage place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Bowskill Spouse's age 43 Spouse's residence High St Father's first name(s) Joseph Father's last name Swift Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Bowskill County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies Archive reference PR-138-3-71 Page 235 Record set Yorkshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
then possibly William and Ann moved back to Derbyshire
1861 census:
William Swift England and Wales Census, 1861 Name William Swift County Derbyshire Event Type Census Event Date 1861 Event Place Staveley, Derbyshire, England Registration District Chesterfield Residence Note Hague Lane Gender Male Age 52 Marital Status Married Occupation Engine Tenter Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1809 Birthplace Staveley, Derbyshire Page Number 1 Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 2536 / 21
William Swift Head M 52 Staveley, Derbyshire Ann Swift Wife F 49 West Ferry, Lincolnshire
Possible baptism for William Swift:
William Swift England Births and Christenings Name William Swift Residence Place Staveley, Derbyshire, England Gender Male Christening Date 19 Feb 1809 Christening Date (Original) 19 Feb 1809 Christening Place STAVELEY, DERBYSHIRE, ENGLAND Father's Name Joseph Swift Mother's Name Mary
Possible marriage for William's parents:
Joseph Swift mentioned in the record of Joseph Swift and Mary Fisher Name Joseph Swift Spouse's Name Mary Fisher Event Date 24 Nov 1801 Event Place Staveley,Derby,England
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13 Jul 2017 15:45 |
Marriage details for Ann Swift and Henry Jackson:
First name(s) Ann Last name Swift Age 19 Birth year 1834 Residence New Street Marriage year 1853 Marriage date 22 Aug 1853 Marriage place Sheffield, St Mary, Bramall Lane Spouse's first name(s) Henry Spouse's last name Jackson Spouse's age 20 Spouse's residence Little Sheffield Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Swift Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph Spouse's father's last name Jackson County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies Archive reference PR-56-2-1 Page 146 Record set Yorkshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
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13 Jul 2017 15:44 |
Address: 25 Staniforth Lane Sheffield
Henry Jackson Head Married Male 47 1834 Shear Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Ann Jackson Wife Married Female 47 1834 Domestic Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription George H Jackson Son Married Male 27 1854 Shear Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Sabina Jackson Daughter Single Female 26 1855 At Home Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Clara Jackson Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Arthur Jackson Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Elizabeth A Jackson Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Marriage for Sarah Ann's parents:
Marriages Sep 1853 Clayton Hannah Sheffield 9c 446 Jackson Henry Sheffield 9c 446 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SWIFT Ann Sheffield 9c 446 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Thorpe Edward Sheffield 9c 446
1861 census:
Address: 5 Listers Row Sheffield Henry Jackson Head Married Male 27 1834 Garden Shear Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Ann Jackson Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Staveley, Derbyshire, England Transcription George H Jackson Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Lavina Jackson Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Sarah Ann Jackson Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription John Edward Jackson Son - Male 0 1861 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Lavina should read Sabina
Birth registrations for childen: (to confirm above marriage)
JACKSON, GEORGE HENRY mother's maiden name SWIFT GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 300 JACKSON, SABINA mother's maiden name SWIFT GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 344
JACKSON, SARAH ANN mother's maiden name SWIFT GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 322 JACKSON, JOHN EDWARD mother's maiden name SWIFT GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 354
1871 census:
Address: Broad Street Lane Sheffield
Henry Jackson Head - Male 37 1834 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Occ: Shear Smith Ann Jackson Wife - Female 37 1834 - Derbyshire, England Transcription George H Jackson Son - Male 17 1854 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Levina Jackson Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Sarah A Jackson Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Yorkshire, England Transcription John E Jackson Son - Male 10 1861 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Harriott Jackson Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Clara Jackson Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Arthur Jackson Son - Male 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England
1891 census:
Address: Staniforth Lane Sheffield
Henry Jackson Head Married Male 57 1834 Garden Shear Maker Yorkshire, England Transcription Ann Jackson Wife Married Female 57 1834 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Arthur Jackson Son Single Male 21 1870 Edge Tool Dresser Yorkshire, England Transcription Elizabeth H Royles Daughter Married Female 20 1871 Fork Burnisher Yorkshire, England Transcription Rubin Royles Son In Law Married Female 19 1872 Coal Carter Yorkshire, England Transcription George Wm Royles Grandson Single Male 0 1891 - - Transcription Herbert Jackson Grandson Single Male 9 1882 Scholar
Possible death for Ann Jackson (nee Swift)
Deaths Dec 1899 ) Jackson Ann Aged 66 Sheffield 9c 333
Burial: Jackson, Ann (Married, age 66). Died at 43 Bard St; Buried on December 28, 1899 in Unconsecrated ground; Grave Number 13191, Section BB of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: . Plot Owner: ~ ~ of ~. Page No 1264
1901 census
Address: Court 7 Bernard Street Sheffield
John E Jackson Head Married Male 39 1862 Gardener Shear Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Harriett Jackson Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Henry Jackson Father Widower Male 67 1834 Garden Shear Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription George H Jackson Brother Married Male 47 1854 Garden Shear Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Death for Henry Jackson:
Deaths Sep 1904 Jackson Henry 70 Sheffield 9c 334
Burial:Jackson, Henry (Garden Shears Maker, age 70). Died at 7ct 4 Bernard St; Buried on August 16, 1904 in Unconsecrated ground; Grave Number 13191, Section BB of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: . Plot Owner: ~ ~ of ~. Page No 1661
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13 Jul 2017 14:47 |
Marriage for Sarah Ann Jackson and Frank Swallow:
First name(s) Sarah A Last name Jackson Age 23 Birth year 1857 Marital status S Residence 25 Stamforth Lane Marriage year 1880 Marriage date 11 Apr 1880 Marriage place Sheffield, Park Dedication St John By licence or by banns B Spouse's first name(s) Frank Spouse's last name Swallow Spouse's age 32 Spouse's birth year 1848 Spouse's residence 7 Broad St Spouse's occupation Labourer Spouse's marital status B Father's first name(s) Henry Jackson Father's occupation Shoe Maker<<<<<<<Should read Shear Maker Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph Swallow Spouse's father occupation Case Manufacterer Witness 1 John Henry Jacksons Witness 2 Angelina Space County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies Archive reference PR-70-2-6 Page 101 Record set Yorkshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
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13 Jul 2017 14:18 |
Birth reg for Mary Ellen Swallow:
SWALLOW, MARY ELLEN mother's maiden name JACKSON GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 479
Parents marriage:
Marriages Jun 1880 Dawson John Sheffield 9c 549 JACKSON S - A - Sheffield 9c 549 <<<<<<<<<<< Swallow Frank Sheffield 9c 549 <<<<<<<<<<<<<,,,, WHITTAKER Hannah Sheffield 9c 549
Mary Ellen with her parents and widowed grandmother in 1881 census:
Address: 6Ct 7 Broad Street Sheffield Elizabeth Swallow Head Widow Female 76 1805 Late Charwoman Eckington, Derbyshire, England Transcription Frank Swallow Son Married Male 23 1858 Labourer At Park Coal Depot Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Sarah Ann Swallow Daughter In Law Married Female 23 1858 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Mary Ellen Swallow Grand Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Emma Swallow Grand Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Death reg for Granny Elizabeth Swallow:
Deaths Dec 1882 SWALLOW Elizabeth Aged 76 Sheffield 9c 287
Burial:Swallow, Elizabeth (Widow, age 77). Died at 6ct Broad St; Buried on November 6, 1882 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 11939, Section X of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: . Plot Owner: ~ ~ of ~. Page No 47
Death for Joseph Tankard: (FRANK SWALLOW/TANKARD'S FATHER)
Deaths Jun 1862 TANKARD Joseph Aged 57 Sheffield 9c 236
1891 census:
Address: Broad Street Sheffield
Frank Swallow Head Married Male 46 1845 Labourer Yorkshire, England Transcription Sarah Ann Swallow Wife Married Female 33 1858 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Mary E Swallow Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription Florence A Swallow Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription Herbert Swallow Son - Male 1 1890 - Yorkshire, England
Death for Mary Ellen's dad Frank: SWALLOW, FRANK Aged 53 GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 372
Burial: Swallow, Frank (Labourer, age 53). Died at 6ct 6 Broad St; Buried on September 8, 1899 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 11092, Section W of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: . Plot Owner: ~ ~ of ~. Page No 1237
1901 census:
Address: Court House 6 Broad Street Sheffield Sarah A Swallow Head Widow Female 40 1861 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Mary E Swallow Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Sweet Factory Warehouse Girl Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Florence A Swallow Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Bottlewasher Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Herbert Swallow Son Single Male 11 1890 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Mother Sarah Swallow in the 1911 census:
Address: 8 Court 1H Bard Street Sheffield
Sarah Ann Swallow Head Widow Female Charwoman 50 1861 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Nellie Swallow Bateman Granddaughter - Female School 10 1901 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Herbert Swallow Son - Male Steel Welder 21 1890 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Thomas Fox Boarder - Male Canal Labourer Wharf 56 1855 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription
Frank Swallow with widowed mum in 1851 census:
Address: Orchard Old Street Sheffield
Joseph Tankard Head Married Male 45 1806 Case Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Swallow Lodger Widow Female 43 1808 - Eckington Transcription Henry Swallow Lodger - Male 17 1834 Steel Rollers Assist Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Ellen Swallow Lodger - Female 5 1846 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Frank Swallow Lodger - Male 2 1849 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Then in the 1861 census Frank recorded as FRANK TANKARD:
Address: St Johns Road Sheffield
Josh Tankard Head Married Male 54 1807 Case Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Swallow - Widow Female 56 1805 Charwoman Eckington, Derbyshire, England Transcription Frank Tankard Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Work In A Rolling Mill Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Ellen Tankard Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Case Maker Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Could not see a birth reg for a Frank Swallow but there is this one for a Frank Tankard:
TANKARD, FRANK mother's maiden name RAWSON GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 596
Possible baptism for Elizabeth Swallow nee Rawson:
Elizabeth Rawson England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers Name Elizabeth Rawson Event Type Christening Event Date 02 Sep 1810 Event Place Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England Gender Female Father's Name Geo Rawson Mother's Name Hannah Rawson
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13 Jul 2017 09:41 |
No, not another child that's Elaine one of the twins, If you look at the baptisms posted by Chris Ho:) on 21/6/2017 at 05:07 you will see the birth dates of both Ilena Anna and Maria are the same. As Martin & Mary McDonagh were Irish they were most likely catholic and so the baptisms were probably recorded in latin.
These are the actual birth registrations (Surname mastakenly recorded as McDonough)
MCDONOUGH, ELAINE mother's maiden name SWALLOW GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 555
MCDONOUGH, MARIA mother's maiden name SWALLOW GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 555
These are the death registrations for them:
MCDONOUGH, ELAINE 2 GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 333
MCDONOUGH, MARIA 2 GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 334
The number 2 after their names relates to their age at death but does not mean 2 yrs old. If you look at the year and quarter (Sept) you will see that they match with the year and quarter of their births. The GRO have not yet found a way of recording the ages of children under 1 year old so 2 (not in this case) could mean 2 days, 2 weeks or 2 months. In this case the girls were born on 21/6/1906 and baptised on 29/8/1906 (as recorded on their baptism records) so were just over 2 months old at the time of their baptisms. As the page number recorded for the deaths follow on (p333 and p334) the timing of their deaths must have been close together.
Burial for Elaine:
McDONOUGH, Elaine (Child, age 2 mo). Died at 2ct 2 St Johns Walk; Buried on September 22, 1906 in Roman Catholic ground; Grave Number 2984, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: . Plot Owner: ~ ~ of ~. Page No 1828
Burial for Maria 3 day later:
McDONOUGH, Maria (Child, age 2 mo). Died at 2ct 2 St Johns Walk; Buried on September 25, 1906 in Roman Catholic ground; Grave Number 2984, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: . Plot Owner: ~ ~ of ~. Page No 1830
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12 Jul 2017 16:00 |
I've just found the following: Could this be an addition to the 14 children of Mary Ellen and Thomas McDonagh?
McDonagh, Ilena Anna (of Parkin Lane Park, born 1906-06-21). Baptised August 29, 1906, by Oswaldo Dolan at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Sub conditione. Godparents: ~ ~ Maria Hansbury :Page No 67 :Reg No
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12 Jul 2017 14:16 |
That's correct, Thomas McDonagh and Jessie Jackson were my great grandparents. I live in Didcot where Thomas was the Regiment sergeant major of the barracks. I remember my nanny Jessie, I was 12 when she passed away.
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12 Jul 2017 13:22 |
Do you mean the four children that died, if so, yes you would need the death certificates.
I have just noticed this burial posted earlier by Chris Ho:)
Burials...
McDONAGH, Thomas (Retired soldier, age 43). Died at 125 Park Rd; Buried on June 28, 1962 in Roman Catholic ground; Grave Number 3613, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: Removed from Didcot.
Says: Remarks: removed from Didcot
there is this probate record in 1962 that looks to relate:
McDonagh Thomas of 125 Park Road Didcot Berkshire died 25th June 1962 Administration Oxford 17th October to Jessie McDonagh widow Effects: £6929 10s 1d
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12 Jul 2017 13:12 |
WOW! Thank so very much for all of your wonderful research. That is amazing. 14 children, that's blown me away. I thought there were only 6!
Do you know how I would find out what happened to them all? Would I have to buy death certificates?
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11 Jul 2017 13:03 |
There is this Thomas McDonagh mistakenly recorded as MCDONOGH in the 1881 census:
Martin Mc Donough Head Married Male 32 1849 Stone Mason Ireland Transcription Mary Mc Donough Wife Married Female 34 1847 - Ireland Transcription Maria Mc Donough Daughter Single Female 9 1872 - Ireland Transcription Bridget Mc Donough Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Thomas Mc Donough Son Single Male 3 1878 - Yorkshire, England (image says SHEFFIELD)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Transcription Patrick Mc Donough Son Single Male 2 1879 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription James Cawley Lodger Single Male 24 1857 Tailor Ireland Transcription Thomas Kalagher Lodger Widower Male 30 1851 Labourer Ireland Transcription
Census details First name(s) Thomas Last name Mc Donough Relationship Son Marital status Single Gender Male Age 3 Birth year 1878 Occupation - Birth town Sheffield Birth town as transcribed SHEFFIELD Birth county Yorkshire Birth county as transcribed YORKSHIRE Birth place England House number 4 Street Ct 4 Bard Street Town - Parish Sheffield County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Registration district Sheffield Archive reference RG11 Piece number 4653 Folio 56 Page 10 Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
Then possibly these birth registrations for Bridget and Thomas mistakenly recorded as McDonald
MCDONALD, THOMAS Mother's maiden name CAWLEY GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 510
MACDONALD, BRIDGET Mother's maiden name CAWLEY GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 508
and this one for Patrick (surname spelt correctly:
MCDONAGH, PATRICK Mother's maiden name CAWLEY GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 479
then the same family in the 1891 census:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription East Street, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Martin McDonagh Head Married Male 41 1850 Stone Mason Ireland Transcription Mary McDonagh Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Ireland Transcription Maria McDonagh Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Comb Cutter Ireland Transcription Thomas McDonagh Son - Male 13 1878 Scholar Sheffield Yorkshire, England<<<<<<<<<<< Transcription James Cawley Lodger Single Male 35 1856 Tailor Ireland Transcription Thomas McHale Lodger Single Male 35 1856 General Labourer Ireland Transcription John McDermot Lodger Single Male 35 1856 General Labourer Ireland Transcription Census details Country England First name(s) Thomas Last name McDonagh Relationship Son Marital status - Gender Male Age 13 Birth year 1878 Occupation Scholar Birth town - Birth county Yorkshire Birth county as transcribed YORKSHIRE Birth place England Street East Street Town - Parish Sheffield City Sheffield County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Registration district Sheffield Archive reference RG12 Piece number 3825 Folio 91 Page 22 Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
NOTE : Birth registrations record mother's maiden name Cawley and there is a lodger James Cawley in both census records (possible relation to Mary McDonagh)
This is Thomas in 1901 living with his married sister Maria Hansbury (married 1891) and her family, the 10 month old Thomas McDonagh seems to be the son of his brother Patrick who marries as John Patrick McDonagh to Caroline Coggin in 1900.
Birth reg for baby Thomas:
MCDONAGH, THOMAS mother's maiden name COGGIN GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 560
1901 census:
Address: 63 Stepney Street Sheffield
John Hansbury Head Married Male 32 1869 Coal Miner Getter Leicester, Leicestershire, England Transcription Maria Hansbury Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Ireland Transcription John P Hansbury Son Single Male 9 1892 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Mary L Hansbury Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Thomas Hansbury Son Single Male 4 1897 - Goldthorpe, Yorkshire, England Transcription Thomas McDonagh Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Engraver Ornamental Silver Sheffield, Yorkshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Transcription Thomas McDonagh Boarder - Male 0 1901 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Bridget Shaw Visitor Married Female 25 1876 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Thomas W Shaw Visitor Single Male 0 1901 - Attercliffe, Yorkshire, England
NOTE; OCCUPATION ENGRAVER THE SAME AS THE OCCUPATION ON BEATRICE'S BAPTISM IN 1903
Parents in 1901census (mistakenly recorded as McDonald):
Address: Court House 14 Duke Street Sheffield<<<<<<<<<
Martin MacDonald Head Married Male 52 1849 Stone Waller Mayo, Ireland Transcription Mary MacDonald Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Mayo, Ireland :
<<<<<<<<<<<<NOTE THIS ADDRESS MATCHES WITH THIS BAPTISM POSTED BY Chirs Ho:) on the 21/6/2017 at 5:07
McDonagh, Joannes (of 9Ct 14 Duke St, born 1910-07-22). Baptised August 31, 1910, by Fr. Van Neste at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Helenae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Confirmatus erat 3 Julii 1921.
1911 census for Parents living with son Patrick and family:
Address: 17 Court 1 Granville Street Sheffield
Patrick McDonagh Head Married Male Stone Waller 31 1880 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Caroline McDonagh Wife Married Female - 30 1881 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Thomas McDonagh Son - Male School 10 1901 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Catherine McDonagh Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Yorkshire Sheffield Transcription Martin McDonagh Father Married Male Stone Waller 62 1849 Sligo Ireland Resident Transcription Mary McDonagh Mother Married Female - 65 1846 Sligo Ireland Resident
Also total number of children for Mary Ellen and Thomas McDonagh looks to be 14.
Beatrice 1903, Thomas 1905, twins Elaine and Maria 1906, Catherine 1907, John 1910, Sarah 1911, Winifred 1913, Maria 1914, Celia 1916, Thomas 1918, Margaret 1920, Nora(h) 1921 and Dorothy 1924
Twins Elaine and Maria born in 1906 both died in the same quarter that they were born. On the baptism records for them posted above their godmother was recorded as MARIA HANSBURY their father Thomas McDonagh's sister). (Maria Hansbury was also godmother to Catherine in 1907)
Thomas born in 1905 died in 1906 aged 1
Nora born in 1921 died in 1922
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22 Jun 2017 09:30 |
Oh thank you Austin, that's great news :)
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22 Jun 2017 08:50 |
The transcription for the father on Beatrice baptism is incorrect.
The original says
Baptism: Beatrice Swallow Date: 6th September 1903 Place: Parish of Wincobank, Sheffield, Yorkshire mother: Mary Ellen father: Thomas Occupation: Engraver Abode: 23 Scho? Street
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22 Jun 2017 07:40 |
Oh? So Beatrice wasn't Thomas Joseph McDonagh's daughter? Her father was called Francis? But Mary Ellen and Thomas Joseph married 4 months later? I'm so confused haha. What a riddle. X
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21 Jun 2017 21:51 |
Yorkshire Baptisms Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Beatrice Last name Swallow Baptism year 1903 Baptism date 06 Sep 1903 Baptism place Sheffield, Wincobank Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Francis Mother's first name(s) Mary Ellen County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies Archive reference PR-104-1-4 Page 13 Record set Yorkshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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21 Jun 2017 19:14 |
Wonderful! Thank you very much Chris. I'm over the moon with all the help and support from you, Abby and Kathleen above. Fantastic.
I think I have managed to find more children:
Winifred born 1913 died an infant Margaret born 1920 Norah born 1921 died an infant Dorothy born 1924
So 11 children in total?! Wow....
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21 Jun 2017 13:30 |
1911 image says Married 7yrs, 6 children born, 3 living 3 died.
You can check Births (maiden name Swallow) after 1911 on below
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Before 1911 you need below to check.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
Chris :)
SWALLOW, BEATRICE - GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 641
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3786410
Medal card of McDonagh, Thomas York and Lancaster Regiment 17191 Private Royal Engineers WR347959
British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription
First name(s) Thomas (Find My Past) Last name Mcdonagh Age 36 Birth year 1877 Service number 17191 Regiment Royal Engineers Year 1914 Residence town Sheffield Residence county Yorkshire
(Marriage to Mary Ellen Swallow 30/1/04. Sheffield. Registry Office. Following children)...
Beatrice (Illegitimate) 23/8/03 Catherine 30/9/07 John 22/7/10 Sarah 20/12/11 Maria 24/9/14 Celia 13/4/16 Thomas 8/4/18
(below couple at 38 Norwich Street, Sheffield 1939. Same for Burial reference Mary Ellen 1936)
Marriages Mar 1937 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------- McDonagh Maria Westby Sheffield 9c 1145 Westby Harry McDonagh Sheffield 9c 1145
(if below Birth)
MCDONOUGH, THOMAS (COSTELLO) GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 57
You need the 1904 Marriage Cert., if you want to go back further.
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21 Jun 2017 10:39 |
Wow thank you very much for the information. My head is whirling trying to make sense of all the brothers and sisters. How many children did Thomas (snr) and Mary Ellen Swallow have? This is so exciting!! Thank you SO much xx
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21 Jun 2017 05:07 |
Burials...
McDONAGH, Thomas (Retired soldier, age 43). Died at 125 Park Rd; Buried on June 28, 1962 in Roman Catholic ground; Grave Number 3613, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: Removed from Didcot. (Find Similar in Same Grave)
McDONAGH, Mary Ellen (wife of Thomas, age 52). Died at 38 Norwich St; Buried on June 8, 1936 in Roman Catholic ground; Grave Number 3613, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: .
McDONAGH, Thomas (Retired, age 74). Died at 7 Norfolk Road; Buried on August 17, 1951 in Roman Catholic ground; Grave Number 3613, Section GG of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: ~.
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McDonagh, Joannes (of 9Ct 14 Duke St, born 1910-07-22). Baptised August 31, 1910, by Fr. Van Neste at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Helenae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Confirmatus erat 3 Julii 1921.
McDonagh, Margarita (of 38 Norwich Street, born 1920-01-12). Baptised February 18, 1920, by T. Molony at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomas (). Note: Confirmata erat 15 Nov1931. Godparents: ~ ~ Beatricia McDonagh
McDonagh, Sarah (of 35 School Lane, born 1911-12-18). Baptised February 7, 1912, by E. Callebert at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Confirmata erat 3 Julii 1921. Ipsa 6:IX:1937 nupsit Jacobum Bradley in hac ecclesia coram me. Augustinus Hewitt
McDonagh, Winifrida (of 55 School Lane, born 1913-04-05). Baptised April 30, 1913, by Gulielmo J Hayes at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Godparents: ~ ~ Elizabeth Pass
McDonagh, Norah (of 38 Norwich St, born 1921-02-18). Baptised April 7, 1921, by Thomas Molony at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Godparents: ~ ~ Beatrix Frost
McDonagh, Maria (of Parkin Lane Park, born 1906-06-21). Baptised August 29, 1906, by Oswaldo Dolan at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Godparents: ~ ~ Maria Hansbury
McDonagh, Ilena Anna (of Parkin Lane Park, born 1906-06-21). Baptised August 29, 1906, by Oswaldo Dolan at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Sub conditione. Godparents: ~ ~ Maria Hansbury
McDonagh, Dorothea (of 38 Norwich St, born 1924-08-01). Baptised August 20, 1924, by Thoma Watkin at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Confirmata Feb 6/1937.
McDonagh, Catharina (of 45 Old Street, born 1907-09-26). Baptised October 29, 1907, by Aemilio Jos.Callebert at St Maries, Sheffield Centre. Parents name(s) are Mariae Swallow & Thomae (). Note: Confirmata erat 3 Julii 1921.Married Wm Thompson,St.Theresa's, 18 May 1967. Godparents: ~ ~ Maria Handsbury
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