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Mary Anne Lawler (Lawlor/Lalor) b: 1860's India - as per Irish (Clonmel) census records.
Marriage 1885 Clonmel shows father John Lawler - Soldier.

Trying to find more information about John and his daughter Mary.

Found only one possible - Discharge papers for Private 916 John Lawler (b: c1835 Clonmel) joined 3rd Madras European Regiment 1853 and discharged from 108th Foot Regiment in 1863 at Poonamallee. Only part of discharge papers unable to read is the intended place of residence!! Note that a lot of retiring soldiers stayed on and lived in Poonamallee.

Unable to find any record of Mary in India. Was she born whilst her father in or out of service and where..... Am I going to be able to find any further information and if so how/where.

Thank you .. DS

intended place of residence .???------Cape of Good Hope.

Thanks for that .... Cape of Good Hope looks good (just need the first line now).
But if correct, why and how would a retiring British soldier be going from India to South Africa instead of home to Ireland ??

David...What was Mary's married name..? I cant see a Mary Anne b India on the Clonmel Census

Mary Anne Rossiter ... Married John Rossiter.

On the 1901 and 1911 census at Dowds Lane, Clonmell .... Difficult to find as spellings are all over the place.

Thanks for your help.

Looks like Park Natal ... Before Cape of Good Hope ???

Just had a look at the record - I think it says "Port Natal"

Thanks for the suggestions..... So if the intended place of residence is "Port Natal - Cape of Good Hope" ....... What is going on??..... What chance of finding anything relating to Mary in India?

Thank you.

No idea if related to your John Lawler:

This baptism:

First name(s) John
Last name Lawler
Baptism year 1857
Birth year 1857
Place Meerut
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) John<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's last name Lawler<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism date 18 Aug 1857
Birth date 10 Aug 1857
Archive reference N-1-92
Folio 529
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal

Father was a private in first battalion H M's 60th rifles.

another child?

This time father John is private in H M.s 52nd light infantry :

First name(s) Philip
Last name Lawler
Baptism year 1855
Birth year 1855
Place Meerut
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Bridget<<<<<<<<<
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) John<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's last name Lawler<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism date 24 Oct 1855
Birth date 04 Oct 1855
Archive reference N-1-88
Folio 341
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal
Record set British India Office births & baptisms

although military record says 60th foot

First name(s) PHILIP
Last name LAWLER
Year range 1855
Place MEERUT
Country INDIA
Regiment 60th Foot
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
Volume 1074
Page 47
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005

Probably born too late to be your Mary Ann:

First name(s) MARYANN
Last name LAWLER
Year range 1874
Place JULLUNDUR
Country INDIA
Regiment 5th Foot
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
Volume 924
Page 46
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms

This might be the marriage of John Lawler and Bridget, in which case he is too old to be the John born 1835 Clonmel:

First name(s) John
Last name Lawler
Marriage year 1852
Marriage date 5 Jul 1852
Spouse's first name Bridget
Spouse's last name Lyons
Place Fort William
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 24
Bride's age 21
Groom's father's first name Philip
Groom's father's last name Lawler
Bride's father's first name Jas
Bride's father's last name Mulcahy
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-82
Folio number 107
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces

Image says groom is a 24 yr old bachelor and a lance corporal with H M's 80th regt European Parents.

Bride is s 21 yr old widow.