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Yes, that information is on the medal card I originally posted. Charles Hudson was disembodied 11/04/1919

OOPS!

Hello again everyone. after reading again all your kind help I decided to invest in a magnifying glass. I can now confirm that the medal does belong to a C. Hudson. (Just had to get past the scratches etc.) Now I have to try & find out how it came into my side of the family. Also, the contact Kay suggested was able to tell me that Charles went to France on 27th. Feb 1915 & survived the war.
I will now continue serching in other ways.
THANKS EVERYONE.

DazedConfused

To have lost one medal roll index card relating to a family is unlikely but not impossible. To have three missing is improbable but, I suppose, not impossible. I see that the Medal Rolls themselves have been put online very recently in addition to the existing index cards. Perhaps if you put the names on here there may be some GR memebers coukld have a second go at this for you?

Oddly, at least 10 men in the RAMC have the regimental No 2260 - I wonder if numbers in that regiment were allocated differently to other regiments? eg by Company.

Looking at other Regt numbers together with RAMC, it does seem that the same numbers appear several times.

This is a very good site for info about Regimental Nos - it lists the dates numbers were allocated in each Regiment, so even if a Service or Pension Record can't be found, the approx. date of enlistment can be found in most cases.

http://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.co.uk/

I think so too Annielaurie - if the o/u in Hudson/Hodson is distorted a C/D could possibly be unclear.

Perhaps Veronica could claify?

The Medal card was found by Marie Celeste - it has to be the right one - right regimental number and right regiment, although obviously his initial is C and not D

The fact that no medal card can be found for this 'medal' does not surprise me

My own grandfather had the standard 3 WW1 medals (known as Pip, Squeak and Wilfred) yet there is no card for him. Nor a couple of his cousins.

We all know that only 30% of all WW1 records survived WW2, so I do wonder if some of the medal cards were also lost.

The medal I have is the 1914-18 british war medal. Inscribed on the edge is 2260 PTE. D. HODSON (or Hudson) R.A.M.C.

Guessing that is the Royal Army Medical Corps?

The surname is slightly distorted on the one letter.

Veronica

Veronica

If you can list the exact marks on the edge of the medal for us that might help. The Regiment usually comes just after the name but can be an abbreviation that might mean very little unless you know what you are looking for.

Kay

Time to start dealing with facts. 2260 is the number of the Charles Hudson found by Marie Celeste. It is a service number that was also held by others in other regiments. It is NOT, repeat NOT, a number of a regiment. The 1914 Star has nothing to do with being in the front line. It was a matter of serving in France or Belgium between August 5th 1914, and midnight of November 22/23rd, 1914 in any capacity. That included many civilians, nurses and staff back in base well away from any action.. Anyone who has a genuine interest in learning about these medals should follow this link:

http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/themedals.html

"the Defence Review of 2260" is from a work of fiction about the British Army in 2300AD, sometime after the "Twilight War"!! It can be found here http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~dheb/2300/Europe/UK/UK/BAIntro.htm

Scroll down to the "Territorial Army Volunteers & Reserves" section and click on the Infantry link - that takes you to the section that Kay???? quoted from. As you scroll down you'll see the Author's Note at the top "These articles, although based on the modern and historic British Army, are works of fiction." :-)

Going back to factual information, this site is as good as any about describing the issue of WW1 medals http://www.greatwar.co.uk/medals/ww1-campaign-medals.htm

I've been heavily involved with our local WW1 commemoration project, we've now researched over 2,000 men from the borough who died and have seen quite a few service records for men who never left the country.

Veronica

What is the regiment on the medal?

Kay

Everyone DIDN'T get the Victory and British Medals - they had to have served overseas. The 2 Star Medals were awarded to those who served overseas on particular dates.

I have no idea why you say there would be no service record - there may well not be as so many were destroyed in WW2, but it has nothing to do with where he served. Your reply is very misleading

http://www.circlecity.co.uk/wartime/board/index.php?pag

Veronica try the link above,Alan may be able to shed some light for you or pointers.

Thanks everyone for your input. Does seem as though I have hit a brick wall.
Will continue seeing if there is a family connection with his name.

Yes Potty you are correct,,,,,but 2260 applied to many of the regiments,,,,,,,usually the Corps and Rifle....

everyone was awarded,

British War Medal and the Victory Medal,

the Star being awared to those who was on the front line,

Not all served on the front line,,,,,,,and did the duties on the home front,,,,,ie Stores/office work.barbers,

If D Hodson/Hudson was such a person then 2 medals would have been awared but there will be no service record so Veronica will have a job finding any details on him,as 2260 was widley used,,,,,,2260 is not a service number,,but attached to a regiment,,,,,,,Warwick Reg 2260,Manchester Reg2260..the list is endless..

My own gt-uncle had 2 medals but didnt set foot outside England,,,,,,,he worked on food supplies to the camps,,,,,,,so no active service record,,,,,,,,

Actually, Kay, I think you can have more than one person with the same Regimental No - originally service numbers were allocate regiment by regiment, so the same numbers were duplicated in different regiments. To have had a WW1 medal, the recipient had to have served overseas, so your references to 2260 wouldn't apply to this record card.

You cant have the same service number for more than one man,,,,,,,I have WW1 medals for more than one person and each has their own number as found on their service record,

2260 is a regimental number and not a person personal service number.

Sorry, but surely 2260 IS his number and not of a Regiment? What was being said was that there quite a few soldiers found with the number 2260 but only one with the surname Hudson. And what is the "Defence Review of 2260"? Am I being dim?

Since the Defence Review of 2260 the TAVR consists of two types of recruits. Ex-regular Reserve soldiers who serve out their reserve commitment in their local units, and Volunteers from the area with no previous military experience. There are also Regular Army Special Reserves (mostly Officers and SNCO) who can be called up directly, but serve with no unit.

just a snippet that seems likely to apply here,

Thanks, Kay & MarieCeleste, there are no other details on the medal, but you have given me some other possible sources. I did think (wrongly) that 2260 was his number not the regiments,so thanks for putting me right there.