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there are a few baptisms with parents Samuel Anderson and Christiana in Yarmouth around the right time
you can see all of the results here, for baptisms in Norfolk 1800-1840 with father Samuel
http://tinyurl.com/l7yzlj3
(there are duplications)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/27CS-SY5
Name: Mary Anderson
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 24 Jun 1817
Event Place: Norwich, St. Edmunds, Norfolk, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Samuel Anderson
Mother's Name: Christian
GS Film Number: 1278797 , Digital Folder Number: 004142880 , Image Number: 1357
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J78T-X74
William Anderson
England Births and Christenings
Name: William Anderson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Oct 1822
Christening Place: St. Edmond, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Samuel Anderson
Mother's Name: Christina Anderson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02256-2 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1278883 , Reference ID: 30
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/27C4-CPP
Name: Charlotta Anderson
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 03 Oct 1824
Event Place: St. Edmund, Norfolk, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Samuel Anderson
Mother's Name: Christiana
GS Film Number: 1278924 , Digital Folder Number: 004142889 , Image Number: 258
also Samuel with wife Elizabeth, a child named Christiana ... I suspect the wife was herself Elizabeth Christiana or vice versa
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7NN-LM4
Name: Elizabeth Christiana Anderson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 02 Jan 1823
Christening Place: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Samuel Anderson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01755-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1526328 , Reference ID: It. 16 p185
there is certainly room for a child born in 1820
given the names, I might wonder whether they were of Scottish origin
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I think I have found him
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2BS-GWY
James Annerson
England Births and Christenings
Name: James Annerson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Feb 1820
Christening Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Samuel Annerson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00024-7 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1526328
I do expect this is the same couple as Samuel and Christiana in the other baptisms
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Thanks for everyone's help and tolerating my inadequacies in replying.
I have found James in the 1841 census at Winchester barracks confirming him as a soldier. His marriage to Amellia in 1849 confirms him in the 46th foot. A visit to the PRO in Kew found his reg number, 1401, and his death in December in the Crimea in 1854.
The Annerson connection is interesting which I have followed leads to the Annison surname.
I have a copy of the original BC James Annerson d.o.b 17/02/1820 which has Samual and Elizabeth as the parents. I also have a copy of Samual and Elizabeth, nee Hodda, has the surname Annison. How can I be sure that the these are my ancestors?
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Well David, for starters, it would have been a very good idea to tell us you had this information so I didn't spend half an hour finding it ........
I just tried to find the Annison Hodda marriage at familysearch but the site has gone down on me
you could give that full information too maybe, date and place
the site is back ...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NK7W-TMS
Samuel Annison
Name: Samuel Annison
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hodda
Event Date: 02 Dec 1817
Event Place: St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16315-4 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1526456
she is also transcribed as Hodds and Madden in different transcriptions so presumably you have checked the original ... I have to say the image at familysearch looks like Hodds to me - it is much clearer in the name of the witness Ann Hodds
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12309-11589-54?cc=1416598
and remember that since both were illiterate (signed with X) they likely did not know how their names were spelt
it all certainly fits together
the only way ever to be sure of descent from a person is DNA
you need another descendant whose DNA can be tested to see whether there is a match
the most certain way of determining this is descendants in the male line - son of a son of a son ... - to match the Y-DNA
autosomal testing can also be done to try to identify cousinship
as an example, a male member of my family did YDNA testing for me, and turned out to be a 100% match with a person living in the US whom I had already 'met' through records at Ancestry, who is also a great-great-grandson of my family member's great-great-grandfather ... so now we know for sure that both our families are 'legitimate' descendants of that man
you would want to find descendants of the other children whose baptisms show the same parents to ask them to test
(testing at a company like FTDNA, which automatically sends you matches no matter what the surname, can also find other branches of a family or relations from farther back on a tree)
otherwise, all you have is the existence of these records that fit your James to a T, and the absence of any other records that would fit your James, which is the best many of us can do once we get back to the early 1800s and before
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Well Joonie, I'm sorry you think I have wasted your time, but you have confirmed my research which is great for me.
The illiterate avenue is good, I guess word of mouth and interpretation was the way it was. I'm uncertain if I should persue the Annison line or not.
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NTQR-NZ9
Name: Susan Annison
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Jun 1825
Christening Place: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Samuel Annison
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01755-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1526328 , Reference ID: It. 16 p90
1841 census
Name: Elizth Annison
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Hundred: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Registration district: Great Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Northern
Elizth Annison 40 charwoman
Santo Annison 20 labourer
Christ Annison 15
Susan Annison 15
this certainly looks like the mother Elizabeth in those various christening records. Susan and Christiana were under 20 so their age was rounded down to 15.
the eldest child in the list is actually Sam'l, a son aged 20
Annison is seeming like perhaps the right name, and James's name got messed up when he moved away
there are numerous Annisons in the vicinity in 1841
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Thanks for that info it's a great help. You have helped me take another step back.
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you're welcome, it's always interesting :-)
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