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Am trying to trace my Great grandfather but all avenues seem to lead to dead ends,and am going round in circles.He was killed during ww1, was born approx 1887 in london,my Nan was born in March 1914, don;t know regt or any further details.

CHARLES ROBERT JENKINS married MARY ANNE EMMA BUSBY 29TH MARCH 1910.

Any help or suggestions welcome.

Have you found him listed on CWGC site

Possible

Name: Charles Robert Jenkins
Birth Place: London Residence: London Death Date: 12 Oct 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: London Rank: C. OF H.
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line
Battalion: Household Battalion Regimental Number: 861
Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 3934, 1St L.G.


Not at the moment found any service record but there is a medal card to match the service number

??

http://www.cwgc.org/

(birth year approx. - 1894)

JENKINS, CHARLES ROBERT

Rank:Corporal of Horse
Service No:861
Date of Death:12/10/1917
Age:23
Regiment/Service:Household Battalion formerly (3934) 1st Life
GuardsGrave Reference:XXV. D. 5.
Cemetery:POELCAPELLE BRITISH CEMETERY

Additional Information:Son of Mr. R. W. and Mrs. M. Jenkins, of 44, Morley Rd., West Ham, London.

(No mention of a wife)

EDIT - NOT this one

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription

First name(s) Charles
Last name Jenkins

Service number 6270

Regiment Middlesex Regiment

Unit / Battalion 6th Battalion

Event year 1909

Age 18

Birth year 1891

Birth town St Luke's
Birth county Middlesex
Birth country England

Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Great Britain


married Mary Ann Emma Busby on 27th March 1910 at St Marys, Hounslow.
Witnesses were J A Busby and S R Jenkins

KILLED IN ACTION on 27th February 1917

Children (?) Charles born 1910 and Mary born 28th March 1914

CWGC site

Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No:L/9536
Date of Death:27/02/1917
Regiment/Service:Middlesex Regiment 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference:Pier and Face 12 D and 13 B.
Memorial:THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

Good find Choccy

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

11 Corporation Row Clerkenwell E C,
St James and St John Clerkenwell, London, England


John Busby Head Married Male 48 1863 Wireworker Birmingham

Mary Olive Busby Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Woolwich Essex

Lousia Alice Busby Daughter Married Female 24 1887 Felt Manufacturers London St Pancras

William Busby Son - Male 12 1899 School London Homerton

Charles Jenkins Lodger Married Male 24 1887 Felt Manufacturers St Lukes London

Emma Jenkins Wife Married Female 22 1889 No Occupation London Fulham

Charles Jenkins Son - Male 0 1911 - St Lukes London

Many thanks Glitterbaby and Choccy. I ruled out 861 corp of horse because his age didn't fit with what i already know and i obtained a copy of his Army will which states he left belongings to his father and no mention of a wife.

Choccy...info you have given seems to fit, my Nan did have a brother born in 1910 but died when approx 18months old....Charles Jenkins was from St.lukes (Middx) area and old family info says he was approx mid 20's when killed.
I really hope the Middx regt Charles Jenkins is the one i'm looking for as all other names/dates you have given match my records.

Please forgive my ignorance but am fairly new to family research and am not entirely sure how to go about all this without going round in circles!, some times i think have found a good match but then dates or names don't match.

I really do appreciate everyones help, my Father died from cancer recently so have been spurned on to trace my family tree, am sure i will make plenty of mistakes and errors along the way but am finding the subject really interesting.

Hi,
Don't mind me asking but how accurate are the dates on ww1 military records?

Info that i do know from my late Nan, family and some research is:

Charles Robert Jenkins....born St lukes area of London - (Great Grandfather)
Married aged 22? - 29th March 1910 to Mary Anne Emma Busby
1911 census shows his age as approx 24? with wife Emma Jenkins and a son Charles aged 7 months.....My Nan Mary Olive Jenkins was born 28th March 1914 and she said her brother died at approx 18months old.......so all this info matches old family info. Have always undestood from Nan that Charles was killed in the Somme, a friend who was with him at the time and survived said that they had just came out of the trench and after a few yards there was an explosion and Charles was gone!?
The problem i am having is that according to marriage and census records that are pretty accurate it would make him aged betwwen 27 & 30ish at his time of death (which matches old family info in that he was late 20's when killed), but finding it hard to match a "Charles Jenkins" killed 1914-18 aged 27-30 and from London/St Lukes area (middx)....thare are a couple of close matches but age listed when killed is too young?.....Thats why i'm wondering how accurate war office records regards age would be.......maybe i'm missing the obvious somewhere.
close matches are:

service No.861.....but age young and no wife listed.
No.L/9536 ??
No.6270 ??.....can't find record on CWGC or medals records
No.1285....too young
No. 9787...??
No.14673....age matches 30yrs (25/10/1918) but in the Dorsetshire regt?.....have always understood that he enlisted locally in London/middx area.