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78th Foot Regiment in Ireland in 1820 or so?

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 8 Jul 2014 21:36

I noticed on his military papers there was one dated 9th April 1838 at Buttevant, and that his medical board took place in Dublin.

Between his military papers and the details on the site you seem to have something to flesh out his story. It would have been gratifying to discover a record of his marriage in Ireland, and a maiden name for his wife though.

I'd best let you get on with that writing! ;-)

Leslie

Leslie Report 8 Jul 2014 17:05

Indeed, the date of his discharge matches the regiment's return to Ireland. Duncan Collie likely was on the ship with the elephant!
I don't know why I didn't find this website in my search but greatly appreciate your finding it. My thought is to write something about that branch of my family tree and this adds much new detail.
I wonder if Duncan would be pleased to know that several of his descendants have served and still do in the Canadian army.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 8 Jul 2014 08:47

It's worth looking at the webpage I cited as I just posted the excerpt about Ireland - it also tells of the regiment's time in Ceylon before coming back to to Ireland, having had some difficulty on the voyage. I think your grandfather was one of the men discharged there.

The regiment also brought a young elephant back from Ceylon.

Leslie

Leslie Report 8 Jul 2014 03:44

Thank you so very much! This is very interesting information. My ancestor was Duncan Collie and this helps sort out why his wife and daughter were born in Ireland.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Jul 2014 23:21

Try this site too:

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/scotreg/rosshire/ross3.htm

An excerpt from the above webpage re the regiment's stay in Ireland before going to Ceylon.:

"The reduction having been carried into effect, and the claims of the men to be discharged settled, the dépôt proceeded to Aberdeen, where it remained quartered till July 1817, when it was joined by the 1st battalion newly returned from India, and the two battalions of the 78th were once more consolidated.

On the 13th of July 1817, the 1st battalion landed at Aberdeen, and marched into barracks occupied by the dépôt of the 2nd battalion, with which it was immediately amalgamated, and the regiment has since remained as a single battalion. The regiment, now consisting of 638 rank and file, maintained its headquarters at Aberdeen, with detachments at Perth, and. Forts George, William, and Augustus.

Having received a route for Ireland, the headquarters marched from Aberdeen on the 31st of October, embarked at Port Patrick on the 22nd of November, and a few hours later landed at Donaghadee. Thence the regiment proceeded to Belfast, and having there received orders for Muillingar, it marched thither, and arrived at its destination on the 3rd of December; headquarters and four companies remained at Mullingar, and the remaining five (the 5th company being still in India), under Lieut.-Colonel Lindsay, proceeded to Tullamore, two small detachments being sent to Ballymahon and Longford.

We need not follow the movements of the 78th during its stay in Ireland for nearly nine years, during which time it was broken up into numerous detachments, stationed at various small towns throughout the country, for the purpose of keeping in check the many disturbers of the peace with whom the country was at this period infested. Wherever the regiment was stationed while in Ireland at this time, it invariably won the good-will and respect of the magistrates and people. When about to leave Mullingar, in June 1819, an extremely flattering series of resolutions was sent to Colonel Macleod by a meeting of magistrates and gentlemen held at Trim."

In October 1818 the Highland Society of London presented to the regiment twenty-five copies of the Poems of Ossian in Gaelic, "to be disposed of by the commanding officer of the regiment in such manner as he may judge most expedient, and as best calculated to promote the views of the Society." At the same time the secretary of the Highland Society conveyed the high respect which the Society entertained "for that national and distinguished corps and the wish on their part that it may long continue to cherish, as it now does, the noble sentiments of the patriotic Ossian." We need scarcely say that these sentiments were warmly reciprocated by Colonel Macleod, who then commanded the 78th. About a year after this, in September 1819, Colonel Macleod was promoted to the rank of major-general, and was succeeded in the command of the regiment by Lieutenant-Colonel Lindsay, who, on the reduction of the establishment of the regiment in September 1818, had been placed on half pay.

The regiment was reviewed by the Right Honourable Sir David Baird, Commander of the Forces, on the 24th of July, when its appearance and steadiness called forth his highest approbation.

On the 11th of August 1822, Lieutenant-General Sir Samuel Auchmuty, G.C.B., colonel of the regiment, died in Dublin, having been, a short time previously, appointed to the command of the forces in Ireland. He was succeeded in the regiment by Major-General Sir Edward Barnes, K.C.B.

When the regiment left Kllkenny for Dublin, in August 1824, a letter was received from the grand jury of the county K.ilkenny, expressive of their high sense of the good conduct of the regiment during its stay of two years and a half in that county, and of their satisfaction at the unanimity which had at all times prevailed between them and the inhabitants. The regiment would have changed its station the preceding year, but was allowed to remain at the particular request of the gentlemen of the county. Lieut.-Colonel Lindsay was appointed a magistrate of the counties of Kilkenny and Carlow, and Captain Lardy a magistrate of Carlow.

On the 13th of January 1826, the regiment moved from Fermoy to Cork. Orders were received on the 26th of January for the regiment to hold itself in readiness to embark for Ceylon, in consequence of which four service companies and six dépôt companies were immediately formed. On the 7th of March new arms were issued to the six service companies, and a selection of the old ones made for the dépôt. The old arms had been in possession more than nine years, but not having been originally good, were considered unfit to be taken to a foreign station. Some of the arms issued as new had been previously for a short time in the possession of the 42nd Highlanders.

The service companies of the regiment embarked at the Cove of Cork on board three ships, which sailed together on the morning of the 23rd of April, and arrived at Colombo on the 9th, the 17th, and the 28th of August respectively, after a favourable passage.

The regiment remained in garrison at Colombo, from its disembarkation until the 2nd of October 1828, when the first division marched for Kandy."

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Jul 2014 23:09

Leslie

1817-1826 The regiment was in Ireland. Will try and locate where...Have you a Name for the Family...?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Jul 2014 23:07

http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=78th_Regiment_of_Foot


1803 The 78th Regiment of Foot was a participant in the famous Battle of Assaye, which resulted in a decisive victory for British forces led by Arthur Wellesley, later the Duke of Wellington. It was also in the Battle of Argaum and in action at Poona and Gwalior. In the same year, the 78th were stationed at Fort William.
1804-1807 The regiment was stationed at Bombay during this period, and at Baroda and Fort St George in 1805.
1807-1811 The regiment was at Goa.
1816 The regiment was stationed in Calcutta.
1817 The regiment was stationed in Portsmouth, England so it presumably went to England in that year.
1817-1826 The regiment was in Ireland.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
1838 & 1841 It was also shown as being in Ireland, with no specific location listed.
1841 The regiment was stationed both in Burnley, England and Bombay, India in this year, so one would have to assume that it returned to India around 1841. It is shown in the Monthly Returns as being in Dublin, Ireland in 1842, so this was presumably its depot. Private David Greenhill wrote a letter home to his family in Scotland, whilst stationed in Dublin in 1841. A descendant of his sister has prepared a transcription of the letter.

EDIT: NB. This site was emphasising the service of the regiment in British India, but it did happen to mention the period in Ireland

Leslie

Leslie Report 7 Jul 2014 15:22

It only says that he was in what was then Ceylon from 1826 to his discharge in 1838. The record appears to have been constructed upon his discharge showing that he was a boy soldier when he enlisted in 1813, completed that commitment in Oct 1822, and reenlisted to the same regiment in April 1823. There are no further details of his postings.

Potty

Potty Report 7 Jul 2014 14:06

Does his army record not show where he served?

Leslie

Leslie Report 7 Jul 2014 02:17

I have found the military records for my 4X great grandfather who was in the 78th Foot from 1813 to 1838 (minus a few months).He was born in Rothiemurchus Inverness in Scotland which is where he and his family went when he became a Chelsea Pensioner.
I have the ensuing census reports but want to know how he might have met my 4X great grandmother, his wife, who was born in Ireland.
Their daughter was born in Ireland in 1821.

Could he have been posted to Ireland ?
Does anyone know how to find that part of the history of the regiment? It doesn't seem to be readily available on the internet.