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My grandfather Walter William Green b1881 we believe was in the Essex regiment during WW1 but I can find no evidence..... any suggestions?

Also my father Thomas Douglas Stuart McKie b1918 I believe was in Jersey/Guernsey during WW2 but I do not know the regiment but he did train as a physical trainer in the army and he was also a trained butcher. I also know that he trained at the Colcheste, Essexr barracks but came from the NE of England.......any suggestions. I will be really grateful for any help with the above.

Regards :-)

For WW2 Army records you need this site

http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/army.html


BUT they are not online and you need to apply for them.

????

A possible?

I guess not if he also came from the NE of England, but posting in case it fits. If this is wrong, could you give us birth location for Walter William please.

NB, Although he is referred to as Walter Green, his signature is Walter W. Green

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Walter Green
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Age at enlistment: 34
Residence: 104 Harwich Rd, Colchester
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 32469
Regiment Name: Essex<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Address 104 Harwich Rd Colchester.

Occupation : Carman

He was married at time of enlistment on 9th Dec 1915.

Wife given as Mary Ann Curtis. Married 3.8.14 Layer de la Haye

Son William Bernard born 11.1.17 Wivenhall

Home: 25.10.16 - 9.1.17

France: 10.1.17 to 9.6.17

Home 10.6.17 to -

Medals: British War Medal and Victory Medal

Sheet headed 'only for use with men returned from an Expeditionary force or garrison abroad' has written across it 'Admitted 10.6.17'.

Transferred on June 26th 1917 to Bermondsey Military Hospital Ladywell Rd, Lewisham.

same record cont'd

Transferred compulsorily 15.1.18 to No 8 Training Battn RAMC.

1.3.18 Transferred to Ist Birmingham War Hospital Rednall.

There is more but I find it hard to read. If this is the right record, I can pm you the image.

The card he signed for receipt of the Victory medal and the British War medal is dated 20th March 1922. The address is still 104 Harwich Rd. Service no is given as 136074, and card says for 'your services with the Royal Army Medical Corps'.

Walter signs as W. W. Green.

EDIT: I assume his change of regimental number reflects his transfer to the RAMC.

The Medal Index card for the Walter W Green I've already given service details for:

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name: Walter Green
Regiment or Corps: Essex Regiment, Royal Army Medical Corps
Regimental Number: 32469, 136074

It confirms 32469 was his regimental number for the Essex Regiment, and 136074 was his regimental number for the RAMC. His rank is given as Pt .

If this is your grandfather, I would be happy to pm you the images of his record, just let me know if they are relevant, and if you want them, to puzzle out the rest of the detail of hisWWI service .

I note this Walter William Green born Suffolk was living in Colchester in the 1911 census, the same man?

First Name WALTER WILLIAM
Last Name GREEN
Relationship BOARDER
Condition SINGLE
Gender Male
Age 30
Year Of Birth 1881
Occupation HORSEMAN ON FARM
Address 44 SAINT PAUL'S ROAD COLCHESTER
Parish COLCHESTER
County Essex
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place HESSETH HEATH SUFFOLK
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 10306
Census Reference RG14PN10306 RG78PN544 RD198 SD2 ED1 SN120
Registration District COLCHESTER
Registration District Number 198
Sub District COLCHESTER NORTH WEST
Enumeration District 1
SubDistrict Number 2
Folio -
Page -
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales


Marriages Sep 1914
Curtis Mary A Green Lexden 4a 1761
Green Walter W Curtis Lexden 4a 1761

Baptism (Find My Past)
First Name WALTER WILLIAM
Last Name GREEN
Country England
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3)
County Suffolk
Year 1882
Mother Sarah
Father Abraham
First Names Walter William
Month Mar
Year Of Birth 1882
Parish Hessett, St Ethelbert
Place HESSETT, ST ETHELBERT
Abode Hessett
Notes bn 27 Jan
Year 1882
Occupation Labourer


Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
GREEN Walter William Stow, S. 4a 634



Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------
GREEN Abraham Stow, S. 4a 753
Spink Sarah Stow, S. 4a 753


(perhaps above, but saw below?)

Chris :)

http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Suffolk/Hessett.html


First name WALTER
Last name GREEN
Service number 24449
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment Suffolk Regiment Battalion 2nd Battalion.
Birth place HESSETT, SUFFOLK
Enlistment place BURY ST. EDMUNDS
Death year 1918
Death day 25
Death month 4
How died Died of wounds
Death location France & Flanders
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Country Great Britain
Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 (Find My Past)
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

A check in 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page, under 'Search')

(Marilyn has below, shared with a couple of other Members)

Relation Name: Walter Green
Date of Birth: 1881
Place of Birth: Hessett, Suffolk Birth cert held

Chris :)

If Chris has the correct death for Marilyn's grandfather, then I must have the wrong service record , as 'my' Walter William Green was discharged 28.2.19 at Woking, heading to 104 Harwich Road, Colchester.and looks to have remained in the UK after his transfer to the RAMC in 1918.

He also signed the receipt card for his medals as W. W. Green in 1922.

I noticed the birth record for the Walter William whose 1911 census record I posted was:

Births Mar 1881 GREEN Walter William Stow, S. 4a 634

However there are also these births:


Births Jun 1892
Green Walter Stow, S. 4a 799
Green Walter Arthur Stow, S. 4a 798

who could also be candidates for the soldier from the Suffolk regiment whose death Chris posted.

The CWGC version of the death gave no age for the deceased.

This one at least, was born Hessett.

Census 1911:

First Name WALTER
Last Name GREEN
Relationship SON
Condition SINGLE
Gender Male
Age 19
Year Of Birth 1892<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation LABOURER ON FARM
Address THE HEATH HESSETT BURY ST EDS
Parish HESSETT
County Suffolk
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place SUFFOLK HESSETT<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 10679
Census Reference RG14PN10679 RG78PN575 RD209 SD2 ED5 SN67
Registration District STOW

Shown with parents Jacob & Elizabeth Green and assorted sibs.

This one also born Hessett:

Census 1911

Name: Walter Green
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head: Step Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hessett, Suffolk, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Brettenham
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: 46 Brettenham, Ipswich
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Agricultural Servant
Registration district: Cosford
Registration District Number: 206

Shown with stepfather Robert Rushbrooke and Robert's wife Minnie Rushbrooke.

Thank you all so very much for your replies. My grandfather did live at 104 Harwich Road and his wife was Mary Ann Curtis so Kucinta has identified the correct person. Any further information will be wonderful. Thank you so much.
Can I ask if there are any suggestions about my father Thomas Douglas Stuart McKie during WW2 (W W Green was my maternal grandfather)?

I am so sorry for not being able to reply earlier but I am staying in France where reception is not very constant.

Again thank you for the information on my grandfather.

Regards :-)

Thank you all so very much for your replies. My grandfather did live at 104 Harwich Road and his wife was Mary Ann Curtis so Kucinta has identified the correct person. Any further information will be wonderful. Thank you so much.
Can I ask if there are any suggestions about my father Thomas Douglas Stuart McKie during WW2 (W W Green was my maternal grandfather)?

I am so sorry for not being able to reply earlier but I am staying in France where reception is not very constant.

Again thank you for the information on my grandfather.

Regards :-)

HI Marilyn - will reply to your pm, and send you the service record images as promised.

Glad we do have the right man.

Re your father's WWII records, you will need to follow Glitterbaby's suggestion as posted early in the thread.

There is very little available online about WWII personnel apart from records of death in action (eg CWGC site), and some prisoner of war records (on ancestry)