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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 May 2014 16:51

This may be a red herring, but I found this marriage of a William Rush in India in 1902


Bride's Forename Winifred Maud
Bride's Surname Bun
Bride's Age -
Groom's Forename William<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's Surname Rush<<<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's Age -
Year Of Marriage 1902
Date Of Marriage 17 Dec 1902
Place Quetta
Presidency Bengal
Bride's Father's Forename James
Bride's Father's Surname Bun
Groom's Father's Forename Jonathan<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's Father's Surname Rush<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Archive Reference N-1-303
Folio No. 380
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

The groom's father is named as Jonathan Rush.

William Rush is described as a bachelor, and as a Sergeant in the Ordinance Dept.

EDIT - this chap would seem to tally with the chap DetEcTive found in the Indian Army Quarterly List for 1 January 1912 who was also in the ordinance dept.

SECOND EDIT: Looking at the image, I think the bride's surname is actually Burr, not Bunn.

I don't suppose your father had a brother named Leslie?

Births Dec 1912 Rush Leslie H Burr Woolwich 1d 2236

ALISON

ALISON Report 15 May 2014 16:46

thanks c de silva was his wife but christina grimsey was not son john is my dad we do not no anything about c de ssilva but they m in bombay india in 1895 we do not no when she d william is buried st osyth essex sec 1 row 1 plot 1601 thank alison

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 15 May 2014 12:31

Hello Alison and welcome to the Community boards.


I'll let Alison know that she has replies to her query :-)

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2014 23:16

He'd only have been 42 in 1914, so even if he was no longer in the Indian Army, its likely he was either called up from the reserves into a training capacity, or to fight

Unfortunately over 60% of WW1 records were destroyed during WW2 bombing and there are too many William Rush' to identify a correct medal card, assuming he was awarded campaign medals

Have you any idea if he was still a serving soldier in or after 1920? If so, his records would still be with the MOD. You can order a copy at a cost of £30 from
https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2014 23:06

sorry - not having any success tracing Military records!

Aha! Something at last!

Indian Army Quarterly List for 1 January 1912 about William Rush
General Text: Surname: Rush
Given Name: William
Birth Date: 12 May 72
FIRST COMM: -------
DATE RANK: 16 Sept. 09
RANK: Warrent Officers
COMPANY: Ordnance Department, Northern Army
REMARKS: ----
Page #: 519

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2014 22:26

Going back to

wife Christina GRIMSEY
Birth 26 Dec 1898 in Weeley, Essex, England
Death 1982 in Little Clacton, Essex, England
..........

The only death for a Christina which matches the birth date is

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Christina Cole
Name: Christina Cole
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1896
Date of Registration: Dec 1982
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2091

Assuming she was William's widow, this is probably her remarriage
Marriages Mar 1950 (>99%)
Rush Christina Cole Colchester 4a 1114


If you believe this to be correct, then it might be worth purchasing the MC as it ought to give her father's name if known, hopefully a De Silva. The other possibility is that she was a widow at the time she married William hence the ancestry tree owner believing her maiden name to be Grimsey

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2014 22:05

1881 England Census about William Rush
Name: William Rush
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Jonathan Rush
Mother: Mary A. Rush
Gender: Male
Where born: Colchester, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Great Warley
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 3 Black Huts
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Hornchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

Piece: 1751
Folio: 48
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Jonathan Rush 43 - Sergeant, Essex Rifles, Militia b Suffolk, Falkenham
Mary A. Rush 28 (wife) - b Ireland
William Rush 8 - b Colchester
Mary A. Rush 4 - b India
Margaret Rush 2 - b India
Jas. Rush 5mths - b Colchester

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2014 21:53

1891 England Census about William Rush
Name: William Rush
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Colchester, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Fulford
Ecclesiastical parish: Fulford
Town: Heworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:Drummer - Infantry

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: York Infantry Barracks

Piece: 3895
Folio: 124
Page Number: 21
..........

Do you have his MC? Does it actually say that he was in one of the Yorkshire regiments? Although he was based in a Yorkshire Barracks, they were moved around the country.

Entry on FIBIS for the marriage
1895 RUSH William to DE SILVA C
Ecclesiastical & Registry Office Records > Marriages > Bombay Marriages
..
A different tree on Ancestry has B&D as

William RUSH
Birth 12 May 1872 in Colchester, Essex, England
Death 07 Mar 1934 in St Osyth, Essex, England

wife Christina GRIMSEY
Birth 26 Dec 1898 in Weeley, Essex, England
Death 1982 in Little Clacton, Essex, England

As it is unsourced, it may be incorrect

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2014 21:47

Please forgive the following re-type as reading a block of text in capitals can be confusing.

Is this correct?
............................
I am looking for anything on William Rush born 1872 in Colchester, died 1934 Essex, married 1895 in India to A C De Silva.

At age 18 (1890?) he was in ............Yorkshire Drummer Infantry
He was my Grandfather.

His dad was Jonathan Rush born 1837 Suffolk, died 1908 Essex.
He (Jonathan) was in the Essex Rifles Militia as a Sergeant in the 33 Foot in 1879

Can you help me
Thank you from Alison
.............

You seem to have quite a lot of information to start with :-D :-D

His birth
Births Jun 1872 (>99%)
RUSH William Colchester 4a 307

which matches with his death

Deaths Mar 1934 (>99%)
Rush William 62 Tendring 4a 1068

A private tree on Ancestry owned by acfleming183 (yours?) has his dob as
12 May 1872 - Colchester, Essex, England

ALISON

ALISON Report 14 May 2014 19:50

I AM LOOKING FOR ANYTHING ON WILLIAM RUSH B1872 COLCHESTER ESSEX D 1934 ESSEX M 1895 BOMBAY INDIA TO A C DE SILVA AT AGE 18 WAS IN HEWONTH YORKSHIRE DRUMMER INPANTRY HE WAS MY GF HIS DAD WAS JONATHAN RUSH B 1837 SUFFOLK B 1837 D 1908 ESSEX HE WAS IN THE ESSEX RIFTES MILITA SERGEAT 33 FOOT IN 1879 CAN YOU HLEP ME THANK YOU FROM ALISON