Military Chat

Hi all,
I am researching the above brothers there are 6 of them William 1861, Thomas 1867, Isacc 1869 John 1872 Samuel 1875 and Benjamine 1879.
I have all the information on Isacc and Samuel but am struggleing with the others.
Parents are Thomas and Hannah can anybody help please
Thanks Aggie

Hi Ann.......welcome to the boards.

Can you tell us where the brothers were born? Have you found them in any census?

Kath. x

Some were born in Staffordshire and the younger ones in Manchester they are in the 1881 Census in Bradford Manchester The 2 I have were in the Manchester Regement.

posting 1881 for reference
CARTWRIGHT, John Head Married M 40 1841 Iron Worker
Worcester, Worcestershire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Hannah Wife Married F 38 1843
Belper, Derbyshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1866 Unemployed
Great Bridge, Staffordshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Tom Son Single M 14 1867
Great Bridge, Staffordshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Isaac Son Single M 13 1868
Great Bridge, Staffordshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, John Son Single M 9 1872
Tunstill, Staffordshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Samuel Son Single M 6 1875
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Daughter Single F 4 1877
South Bank, Y VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Benjamin Son Single M 2 1879
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Walter Visitor Single M 28 1853 Nutt & Bolt Maker
West Bromwich, Staffordshire VIEW

Piece: 4016

Folio: 57

Page: 47

Registration District: Prestwich

Civil Parish: Bradford

Municipal Borough:

Address: 18, Temple St, Bradford

County: Lancashire
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The 1881 census has the parents as John and Hannah - not Thomas and Hannah.

Have you tried using "search" button at the top of the screen and then "search all member trees" to see if anyone else has these people in their tree.

Kath. x

Tom 1901 ????

CARTWRIGHT, Thomas Head Married M 32 1869 Green Grocer
N K, Staffordshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Sarah A Wife Married F 30 1871
Llarsainfffrais, Montgomeryshire VIEW
CARTWRIGHT, Arthur T Son Single M 0 (1 MOS) 1901
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
GRIFFITH, Lizzie Sister Single F 28 1873 Domestic Servant
Llarsinfffrais, Monmouthshire VIEW

Piece: 3763

Folio: 37

Page: 10

Registration District: Prestwich

Civil Parish: North Manchester

Municipal Borough:

Address: 70, Wellington Street, North Manchester

County: Lancashire
refine search back to 1901 census se

Thanks Kath and Maddie you have both got the right family Father Thomas the census is wrong he wrote down Tom and it was transcribed wrong Tomas 1869 is his Son probabley not in the Army during WW1 because of his bussiness :-D

Maddie, have got most of the information I need on the family but its the WW1 records I cannot find apart from Isacc and Samuel

Are you sure that they all served in WW1. The oldest two would have been a bit old, unless they had previously been in the Army and were on the reserve list.

There is this from the Commonwealth War Graves site:-

CARTWRIGHT, SAMUEL

Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 5949
Date of Death: 14/03/1915
Age: 42
Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment
1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panels 34 and 35.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Son of Thomas and Hannah Cartwright.

EDIT: SORRY - I see you already have this.

Kath. x

Remember that 70% of World War One records were destroyed in a fire so they may not have survived.

Kath. x

I realize that some of them may have been to old but there were all in the army. And served in the Boar War. I think may be at least Benjamine may have emigrated to Canada and although I have a Benj amine on a passenger list. The Victoria out of Liverpool on 28th Feb 1913 I am not sure it was him. I also have a War graves Rememberence for a Canandian died 11th October 1918 but no proof that either of them are him.

Ann, Your thread was about them serving in WW1

If they all served in the army before WW1 then you may find them on FMP

They have records for British Army Service Records 1760-1915 including Anglo-Boer War 1899-1902 records

The older brothers may have been pensioned off by the time of WW1

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/

Roy

This site has details of the Benjamin who died. He was born in Birmingham and his next of kin was his mother, Adelaide Maria Cartwright, so not your Benjamin:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/list.aspx?k=Surname%3a%22Cartwright%22

Thanks Roy, I will go to the Library and have a look at FMP
thanks Potty I can now ditch that bit of info
Ann x